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AD OPTATUM LIBER. CAPUT PRIMUM. 331 Extorsisti mihi, dilectissime fili, ut de uni- tate Trinitalis, quae perfectus Deus semper ac sum­ mus est, officii non immemor sacerdotalis , aliquid scriberem : idque a me, cum proprie infimitatis con­ scius sæpius excusarem, multis modis exegisti ; asse­ rens communis fidei rationem, et religiosos accipere, ct sacerdotes debere fidelibus non negare : ne aut illi dum non accipiunt, incipiant ab infidelibus facile de­ cipi, aut ab his cum desiderata non tribuunt, coele­ stis thesaurus Ghristi membris non expendi, sed in terra quodammodo sterilis peritiae videanturabscondi.
《致奧塔圖斯書》。第一章。至愛的兒子啊,你從我這裡強求,要我顧念司祭的職分,就那位永遠且至高之完美神——三位一體的合一——寫些什麼:你多方面向我索求此事,雖然我自知卑微,屢次推辭;你卻堅持說,敬虔者也當領受共同信仰的道理,司祭也不當向信徒拒絕之:免得他們因不領受,便容易開始被不信者欺哄;又免得當那些渴慕者得不著這些司祭所給的時候,基督屬天的寶藏竟似乎未曾施與祂的肢體,反倒彷彿埋藏在貧瘠技藝的土裡。
A BOOK TO OPTATUS. CHAPTER ONE. You have wrung from me, most beloved son, that, not unmindful of the priestly office, I should write something concerning the unity of the Trinity, which is the perfect God, ever and supreme: and this you have exacted from me in many ways, though I, conscious of my own littleness, often excused myself; asserting that the religious also receive the account of the common faith, and that priests ought not to deny it to the faithful: lest either they, while they do not receive it, begin to be easily deceived by the unbelievers, or, when those who desire it are not granted it by these priests, the heavenly treasure of Christ may seem not to be expended upon His members, but in a manner to be hidden in the earth of a barren skill.
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Itaque victum me fateor probabilibus causis, ne mermes traderc videar obsistentibus malis, dum ad­ versus infideles non instruuntur munimine veritatis. Verum quia in ejusmodi quæstionibus quaedam ob­ scuritas continua oratione frequenter incurritur, id­ circo id mihi visum est, ut cum sermonem qui inter ine et Fclicianum nuper est habitus, prænotatis pro­ pter personarum discretionem principalibus nomi­ num litteris , præsentis libelli brevitatc comple­ cierer. CAPUT II. Nam cum ante hos dies pariter sederemus, tum ille :
因此,我承認我已被那些貌似有理的緣由所說服,免得我看似把手無寸鐵之人交給敵對的惡——當他們未曾以真理的堡壘武裝起來去對抗不信者之時。但因為在此類問題中,連續的論述常會招致某種晦澀,所以我認為最好如此:把我與斐利西安(Felician)近日所進行的談話,收進這本短書的篇幅之內,並為區別兩人,預先在各人名稱前標注首字母。第二章。因為數日之前,當我們同坐之時,他便說道:
And so I confess that I have been overcome by plausible reasons, lest I should seem to hand over unarmed men to the opposing evils, while against the unbelievers they are not equipped with the bulwark of truth. But because in questions of this kind a certain obscurity is frequently incurred by continuous discourse, therefore this has seemed best to me: that I should comprehend within the brevity of the present little book the conversation which was recently held between me and Felician, with the principal letters of the names noted beforehand for the distinction of the persons. CHAPTER II. For when, some days ago, we were sitting together, then he said:
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Inter alia, inquit, quæ me in vestris disputatio­ nibus frequenter offendunt, nihil deterius puto quam quod sic præcepta fidei rudibus traditis, ut non de inteligendarum rerum ratione, 332 sed potius de quadam testimoniorum ostentatione colloquentibus praescribatis. Quod ut non dicam vafrum, interim quam rusticum sit, nullus ignorat. Primum quod si is qui edocetur libris jam credidit, obtemperat iste, non repugnat : alioquin non magis tibi quam iisdem testimoniis quæ pro affirmato ingeruntur, necesse est contradicat. Et ideo melior mihi ad docendum videtur haec via, qua primum fidei ratio sine testi­ moniis redditur : post ratione convicto, iter illud Scripturis respondentibus expolitur.
他說:「在你的論辯中時常觸怒我的諸事之中,我認為再沒有比這更糟的了:你竟如此把信仰的訓誡交給未受教者,以致你給那些與你交談的人所定的規矩,不是出於對當被理解之事的推理,而毋寧是出於某種對見證的炫耀。這件事——不說它狡詐——至少是何等粗陋,無人不知。首先,因為若那受教者已然相信那些書卷,這人便會順從、不會反抗:否則,他勢必既反駁你,也同樣反駁那些為所斷言之事而引來的見證。因此,在我看來,教導之道以這樣為佳:先不憑見證而給出信仰的推理;待推理確立之後,再以與之相應的聖經來修飾那道路。」
'Among other things,' he said, 'which frequently offend me in your disputations, I think nothing worse than that you so hand over the precepts of faith to the untaught, that you prescribe to those who converse not from the reasoning of things to be understood, but rather from a certain ostentation of testimonies. That this is — not to say crafty — at least how boorish it is, no one is ignorant. First, because if he who is being instructed has already believed in the books, this man complies, he does not resist: otherwise it is necessary that he contradict not you any more than those same testimonies which are brought in for what is affirmed. And therefore this way seems to me better for teaching, by which first the reasoning of faith is rendered without testimonies: afterward, the reasoning having been established, that path is polished with the Scriptures answering to it.'
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Et non imme­ rito. Si enim testimonia hec eo probantur, quod ra­ tione non careant, potest per se illa sufficere, quæ etiam haec non nisi per se ipsam videtur astruere. Sin contra : quis potest irrationalibus testimoniis, licet illa divina Ungantur, rationabilis fidei colla sub­ mittere? Et illam quidem disputandi viam, fateor, in aliis tolerarem, quos imperitiæ necessitas, quia per se stare non queunt, cogit ad aliena confugere : In te vero idcirco nullo prorsus modo ista perpetior, quia eloquentiam pariter cum scientia fidei tibi video non deesse.
「這也不是沒有道理的。因為若這些見證是因不缺乏理性而被認可,那麼那理性本身便能足夠,因為連這些見證也似乎只藉理性本身才得以成立。但若相反:誰能把理性信仰的頸項屈服於不合理性的見證之下,縱然那些見證被尊為神聖的?我承認,那種論辯之道,在別人身上我尚能容忍——就是那些因經驗不足之必然、自己站立不住、被迫求助於外物的人;但在你身上,我斷然全不容忍,因為我看見你既有口才,又有信仰的知識,二者兼備。」
'And not without reason. For if these testimonies are approved by the fact that they are not lacking in reason, then that reason can suffice by itself, which even these testimonies seem to establish only through itself. But if the contrary: who can submit the neck of a rational faith to irrational testimonies, even though they be anointed as divine? And that way of disputing, I confess, I would tolerate in others, whom the necessity of inexperience, because they cannot stand by themselves, compels to take refuge in things outside: but in you I by no means tolerate it at all, because I see that you do not lack eloquence together with the knowledge of the faith.'
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Tum ego, Num usque adeo, inquam, duci me pu­ tas laudibus meis, ut injuriam faciam praecedentibus sanctis, nec præsumam unquam in sapientia verbi, ne evacuetur crux Christi (I Cor. I, 17); sed Scriptura­ rum auctoritate contentus, simplicitati obedire po­ tius studeo quam tumori. Sed melius, inquis, ra­ tione quis quam testimoniis edocetur. Quid ergo f quam rationem afferre potes, si partum praedicas vir- Binis, si redditos oculos non negas caecis, si sepultos redisse ostendis a mortuis? Si ergo horum et incom­ prehensibilis ratio et veritas prompta est, facilius in negotiis fide! testimoniis creditur, quam ratio inve­ stigatur.
於是我說:「你以為我竟被自己的稱譽引到這地步,以致虧負那些走在前面的聖徒,並膽敢倚靠言語的智慧,免得基督的十字架落了空(林前一17)麼?不然,我滿足於聖經的權威,寧可竭力順服樸實,而非高傲。但你說,人憑理性受教比憑見證更佳。那又如何呢?倘若你宣揚童貞女生子,倘若你不否認瞎子復明,倘若你顯明已埋葬之人從死裡復活——你還能拿出什麼理性來呢?因此,若這些事既有那不可測度的理性、又有現成的真實,那麼在信仰之事上,憑見證去相信,比去探究那理性更為容易。」
Then I said, 'Do you think me so far led by my own praises that I should do injury to the holy ones who have gone before, and presume ever to trust in the wisdom of word, lest the cross of Christ be made void (1 Cor. i, 17); but, content with the authority of the Scriptures, I strive rather to obey simplicity than pride. But you say, one is better taught by reason than by testimonies. What then? What reason can you bring forward, if you proclaim the childbirth of a virgin, if you do not deny that sight was restored to the blind, if you show that the buried have returned from the dead? If, therefore, both the incomprehensible reason and the truth of these things is at hand, then in matters of faith it is more easily believed by testimonies than the reason is investigated.'
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Verum quia non nimis inconsequenter duo ista discernis, cum ratione præmissa, etiam testimo­ nia non omittis: idcirco in hac disputatione id me fateor secuturum, quod ipse probaveris. CAPUT III. Fel. dixit. Ergo, inquit, quoniam otiosi sumus, ad homousii vestri quaestionem, de quo non inter nos tantum, sed etiam inter majores nostros plerumque tractatum est, veniamus. 333 Et ne longius cvage­ tur oratio, ipse jam, ut soles, personam proponenCia assume, et a nobis rationem nostræ fidei quærenti­ bus, vicissim redditurus inquire. Tum ego, Die mihi, inquam, verumne sit, quod te audio dicere, Patri homousion non esse pcnitus Fi­ lium Fel. dixit.
「但因為你把這二者區分得並非太不一致,既然在以理性為前提之後,你也不略去見證:所以在這場論辯中,我承認我必跟從你自己所認可的。」第三章。斐利西安說:「那麼,」他說,「既然我們有閒暇,就讓我們來談你們『同質』(homoousion)的問題罷;關於這事,不僅在我們中間、就連在我們的前輩中間,也屢屢有過討論。為免論述偏離太遠,現在就請你自己照你慣常的樣式,擔當提出問題的一方;當我們向你求問我們信仰的道理時,你便輪流作那要給出回答的人,這樣來發問罷。」於是我說:「請告訴我,」我說,「我聽你所說的,子與父全然並非『同質』,這話是否真確?」斐利西安說。
'But because you distinguish these two not too inconsistently, since, reason being premised, you also do not omit the testimonies: therefore in this disputation I confess that I shall follow that which you yourself shall have approved.' CHAPTER III. Felician said. 'Therefore,' he said, 'since we are at leisure, let us come to the question of your homoousion, concerning which there has been frequent discussion not only among us but also among our forebears. And lest the discourse wander too far, do you yourself now, as you are wont, take up the part of one proposing it, and, as we ask from you the account of our faith, inquire in turn as one about to render it.' Then I said, 'Tell me,' I said, 'whether it is true, what I hear you say, that the Son is not at all homoousion to the Father.' Felician said.
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Verum est, nec persuaderi mihi potest iJ ingenitum esse quod genitum, ne eumdem Patrem videar praedicare quem Filium. Aug. dixit. Non est ita : nam ne mihi quidem istud in animo est, cumdem ingenitum esse quem genitum, sed id potius ingenitum esse quod genitum. Ftl. dixit. Et quomodo non cumdem ingenitum dicis esse quem genitum, si utrumque unum putas esse, non alterum? Aug. dixit. Animadverto vim te penitus non attea­ disse verborum : nam dum utrumque unum dico, substantiam veri Patris ac veri Filii ex toto non se­ paro. Et dum non eumdem Patrem quem Filium prædico, utriusque personam servaLa unius cujusque proprietate discerno. Itaque si substantiam quaeris, ipsa Trinitas unus cst Deus :
「這是真的,我也不能被說服去相信那受生者是非受生的,免得我看似把我宣稱為子的,宣稱為同一位父。」奧古斯丁說:「並非如此:因為就連我也無意說那受生者是同一位非受生者,而毋寧是說那受生者乃是非受生的。」斐利西安說:「你既然認為二者並非相異、而是同一物,又怎能說那受生者不是同一位非受生者呢?」奧古斯丁說:「我看出你全然沒有留意這些話的力量:因為當我說二者為一時,我絕不把真父與真子的本體分開。當我宣稱父並非與子同一位時,我便保全各自的屬性,而區分二者各自的位格。因此,你若問本體,三位一體自身就是獨一神:
'It is true, nor can I be persuaded that what is begotten is unbegotten, lest I should seem to proclaim the same to be Father whom I proclaim Son.' Augustine said. 'It is not so: for not even to me is it in mind that the same is unbegotten who is begotten, but rather that that is unbegotten which is begotten.' Felician said. 'And how do you say that the same is not unbegotten who is begotten, if you think each one to be, not the other, but one thing?' Augustine said. 'I observe that you have not at all attended to the force of the words: for while I say that each is one, I do not at all separate the substance of the true Father and the true Son. And while I proclaim that the Father is not the same as the Son, I distinguish the person of each, the property of each one being preserved. And so, if you ask for substance, the Trinity itself is one God:'
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si personam, alter est Filius. Fel. Et quomodo et idem esse dicis, et alterum Filium? Aug. Idem, inquam, communione substantiæ, alte­ rum proprietate personx. Fel. Nescio quo pacto una creditur esse substan­ tia, cum non un.' dicatur esse persona. Aug. Non est, inquam, un apersona, quia una ge­ nuisse, et altera dicitur genila : et est tamen nati et gignentis non diversa substantia, quia non dissimilis generanti docetur exorta. Fel. Velim, quæso, exemplo mihi faciliore dicta di­ lucides. Aug. In rebus quidem incomprehensibilibus exem­ pla non suppetunt disputanti; tamen in quantum fieri potest, etiam in hac parte non deero. Ecce igi- tur homo pater habet hominem filium.
「你若問位格,子則是另一位。」斐利西安:「你怎能既說祂是同一位,又說子是另一位呢?」奧古斯丁:「同一位,」我說,「是憑本體的相通;另一位,是憑位格的屬性。」斐利西安:「我不知本體怎能被信為是一,而位格卻不被說為是一。」奧古斯丁:「位格並非是一,」我說,「因為一位被說為已生,另一位被說為被生:然而受生者與生者的本體並非相異,因為那受生而出的被教導為與那生者並非不相似。」斐利西安:「我懇求,但願你用一個更淺顯的例子把所說的向我講明。」奧古斯丁:「在不可測度的事上,論辯者實在沒有現成的例子可用;然而,就力所能及而言,即便在這方面我也不會缺乏。看哪,一個作父親的人有一個作兒子的人。」
'if you ask for person, the Son is another.' Felician. 'And how do you say both that He is the same, and that the Son is another?' Augustine. 'The same,' I said, 'by the communion of substance; another, by the property of person.' Felician. 'I know not in what manner one substance is believed to be, when one person is not said to be.' Augustine. 'It is not,' I said, 'one person, because one is said to have begotten, and another to have been begotten: and yet the substance of the born and the begetting is not diverse, because the one arisen is taught to be not unlike the one generating.' Felician. 'I would wish, I pray, that you would make your words clear to me by an easier example.' Augustine. 'In incomprehensible matters, indeed, examples are not at hand to the one disputing; nevertheless, as far as it can be done, even in this part I shall not be wanting. Behold, then, a man as father has a man as son.'
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Est commune utriusque quod homo est, uni tamen quod filius a!­ teri proprium videtnr esse quod pater est. Nam in utroque sic persona disc rn tur, ut communis huma­ nitas non negetur; dum unus gignit, alius gignitur : aeque autem homo et qui genuit dicitur, et ille qui gignitur. CAPUT IV. Fel. Illud certe dicas velim, genitus ab ingenito utrum 334 initio separetur, an non ? Aug. Ne id quidem spiritalis intelligentiae veritate recipitur, ut Pater a Filio interventu, non dico tem­ poris, quod diebus constat ac noctibus, sed cujuslibet ævi vel .etatis spatio separetur. Fel. Hoc si ita cst, duo fateris ingenita.
「二者共有的乃是他都是人;然而對一位來說,他是兒子似乎是其固有的;對另一位來說,他是父親乃是其固有的。因為在二者裡,位格被如此區分,以致共有的人性並不被否認;當一位生時,另一位被生:然而那生者與那被生者同樣都被稱為人。」第四章。斐利西安:「我倒願你務必說明這個:那受生者是否被一個起始與非受生者分開,還是不然?」奧古斯丁:「就連這個也不為屬靈悟性的真理所接納——即父被一段間隔與子分開;我所說的間隔,不是指由晝夜構成的時間,乃是指任何年代或年歲的時段。」斐利西安:「若是這樣,你便承認有兩位非受生者了。」
'It is common to both that he is a man; yet to the one it seems proper that he is a son, to the other that he is a father. For in each the person is so distinguished that the common humanity is not denied; while the one begets, the other is begotten: but equally is he said to be a man both who begot and he who is begotten.' CHAPTER IV. Felician. 'I would wish that you would surely say this: whether the begotten is separated from the unbegotten by a beginning, or not?' Augustine. 'Not even that is received by the truth of spiritual understanding, that the Father should be separated from the Son by the interval — I do not say of time, which consists of days and nights, but of any age or span of years whatever.' Felician. 'If this is so, you confess two unbegotten ones.'
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Et quo- modo altera Patris, altera Filii putatur esse persona, cum per significationem communis ingeniti utraque videatur esse confusa ? Aug. In hoc quidem a majoribus vestris non me­ diocris calumniae sophisma contexitur, tamen per auxilium ipsius Trinitatis catholica necesse est sim­ plicitate solvatur. Patrem namque ingenitum, Filium genitum dico, nec ideo tamen genitum ingenito coae­ ternum esse non prædico; eo tantum docens iugeni­ tum Patrem, quia non processit ex altero ; eo geni­ tum Filium, quia non exstitit a seipso. Non enim est, commune utrique n asci, non est commune non gi­ gni : et commune tamen est alterum ab altero inter­ ventu medii temporis non divelli.
「並且,當一位藉著『共同非受生』的指意而似乎與另一位相混時,怎能把一位看作父的位格、另一位看作子的位格呢?」奧古斯丁:「在這事上,你的前輩確實織出了一個極具誣陷之嫌的詭辯;然而,藉著三位一體自身的幫助,它必須以大公正統的樸實來解開。因為我說父是非受生的、子是受生的,卻並不因此就不宣稱那受生者與那非受生者同永:我教導父之所以是非受生的,只在於祂並非出於另一位;子之所以是受生的,在於祂並非出於自己。因為『被生』並非二者所共有,『不被生』也非二者所共有:然而二者所共有的,乃是其中一位並不被一段居間的時間間隔從另一位扯離。」
'And how is the one thought to be the person of the Father, the other of the Son, when, through the signification of the common unbegotten, each seems to be confounded?' Augustine. 'In this matter, indeed, a sophism of no slight calumny is woven by your forebears; nevertheless, through the help of the Trinity itself, it must needs be solved by catholic simplicity. For I say the Father unbegotten, the Son begotten, and yet I do not therefore not proclaim the begotten coeternal with the unbegotten; teaching the Father unbegotten only in this, that He did not proceed from another; the Son begotten in this, that He did not exist from Himself. For it is not common to both to be born, it is not common not to be begotten: and yet it is common that the one is not torn away from the other by the interval of an intervening time.'
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Itaque si proprium Patris quærimus, sufHcit quia solus non habet Pa- trem ; si Filii, salis est quod non habet prolem ; unam autem et coæternam Patris et Filii dicimus deitatem. Fel. Quantum ad me attinet, non video quid ista nunc colligas. Nam quamvis Aristotelica mecum sub­ tilitate contendas, fieri tamen non potest ut eum qoi genitus est, ab eo qui genuit, nulla xvi interce­ dentis antiquitate discernas. Aug. Scio equidem, ut ille ait, quam in difficili loco versetur oratio : tamen verendum nobis nihil est, qui per adjutorium sancti Spiritus testimonium dicimus Deo. Quid ergo dicemus? Estne aliquid in Patre quod negetur ingenitum, an non?
「因此,我們若尋求父的屬性,只消這一點便足夠:唯獨祂沒有父;若尋求子的屬性,這就夠了:祂沒有後裔;但我們說父與子的神性是一而同永的。」斐利西安:「就我而言,我看不出你如今要歸結出什麼。因為縱然你以亞里士多德式的精微與我相爭,仍不可能成立:你竟能以一段居間年代的久遠,把那受生者與那生者區分開來。」奧古斯丁:「我確實知道,正如他所說,這論述所處之地是何等艱難:然而我們無所懼怕,因為我們藉著聖靈的扶助為神作見證。那麼我們該說什麼呢?父裡面是否有某物被否定為非受生的,還是沒有呢?」
'And so, if we seek the property of the Father, it suffices that He alone does not have a Father; if of the Son, it is enough that He does not have offspring; but we say the deity of the Father and the Son to be one and coeternal.' Felician. 'As far as concerns me, I do not see what you are now gathering. For although you should contend with me with Aristotelian subtlety, yet it cannot come about that you distinguish Him who is begotten from Him who begot, by no antiquity of an intervening age.' Augustine. 'I know indeed, as he says, in how difficult a place the discourse is engaged: yet we have nothing to fear, who through the aid of the Holy Spirit bear witness to God. What then shall we say? Is there anything in the Father which is denied to be unbegotten, or not?'
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Si est, non in toto, sed in parte potius dicatur ingenitus; alioquin non ex tempore coepit esse Filius. Nam si paternitas non cœpit Patris, initium inveniri non potest prolis. Si initium datur prolis, non æterna paternitas docebitur Patris. Et quomodo stabit, quia totum in Patre doce­ lis ingenitum, qui ipsius paternitatis nomen habere pulalis initium, cum cœpisse ex tempore dicitis Fi­ lium, quem nondum exstante Patre dici non potest vocitatum? Fel. Non sum tam stultus ut tempus præferam Filio, sed initium dari 335 certum est genito. Aug. Quid ergo? inter Patrem et Filium dicis me­ dium nihil luisse? Fel. Ita prorsus. CAPUT V. Aug.
「若有,就讓祂被說為並非全然、而毋寧是部分地非受生;否則子便不是從時間開始而有的。因為若父的父性沒有開始,後裔的起始便無從尋見。若給後裔定下一個起始,父的父性便不被教導為永恆的。並且,你既認為父性之名本身有一個起始,又說子是從時間開始的——子在父尚未存在時不能被說為已得稱呼——你說父裡面的全體都是非受生的,這又怎能成立呢?」斐利西安:「我並非愚拙到把時間置於子之先,但確定的是,那受生者被給了一個起始。」奧古斯丁:「那又如何?你是說在父與子之間並無居間之物麼?」斐利西安:「正是如此。」第五章。奧古斯丁。
'If there is, let Him be said to be unbegotten not in the whole, but rather in part; otherwise the Son did not begin to be from time. For if the paternity of the Father did not begin, the beginning of the offspring cannot be found. If a beginning is granted to the offspring, the paternity of the Father will not be taught to be eternal. And how will it stand, that you teach the whole in the Father to be unbegotten, you who think that the name of paternity itself has a beginning, since you say that the Son began from time, who cannot be said to have been named when the Father did not yet exist?' Felician. 'I am not so foolish as to set time before the Son, but it is certain that a beginning is given to the begotten.' Augustine. 'What then? Do you say that there was nothing in the middle between the Father and the Son?' Felician. 'Quite so.' CHAPTER V. Augustine.
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Quomodo igitur negas Filium Patri coæter- num, qui inter Patrem et Filium fateris esse nihil medium, ne idipsum non medium tantum constet esse quam tertium? Fel. Quoniam me disputandi arte concludis, id quod a majoribus nostris dictum est, breviter expli­ cabo. Aiunt enim, quoties de initio Filii et Patris æternitate tractatur : Erat quando non erat, et ante­ quam nascerctur non erat. Aug. Quantum adverto, manente malæ credulitatis errore, sola verba mutata sunt. Dixisti namque, Erat quando non erat. Erat istud ad ævum pertinere vul- Lis, an ad Filium ?
那麼你既然承認聖父與聖子之間並無任何居間之物,又怎能否認聖子與聖父同永呢?否則那「非居間之物」豈不正要被認定為第三者了嗎?費利西安:既然你用辯論之術逼我就範,我便簡略說明我們先輩所說的話。他們說,每當論及聖子的開端與聖父的永恆時:「曾有祂不存在的時候,在祂被生之前祂並不存在。」奧古斯丁:依我所見,惡信之謬依舊未改,只是換了說法。你方才說:「曾有祂不存在的時候。」這「曾有」,你是指那段世代時間,還是指聖子呢?
How then do you deny that the Son is coeternal with the Father, you who confess that there is nothing intermediate between the Father and the Son, lest that very 'non-intermediate' should be established to be nothing other than a third? Fel. Since you box me in by the art of disputation, I will briefly explain what was said by our elders. For they say, whenever the beginning of the Son and the eternity of the Father is treated: 'There was a time when he was not, and before he was born he was not.' Aug. As far as I observe, the error of evil belief remaining, only the words have been changed. For you said, 'There was when he was not.' Did you mean that 'was' to pertain to the age, or to the Son?
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Si ad ævum, id est velut ad quod­ dam ante Filii nativitatem æternitatis spatium, ecce ad superiorem blasphemiam necessitate dilaberis, cum inter Patrem et Filium, tertium quiddam tempus immittis; dicisque quia erat ante Filium Dens Pater et tempus. Post hæc duo Filius. Post tria ista quar­ tus Spiritus. Quod si admittimus, ut sine tempore gigni non potuerit Filius : videquam late pateant ista quæ dicimus. Nam si nOli sine tempore est Filius, certe nec nisi in loco dicendus est genitus. Hoc admisso, ante Filium et Spiritum, coævum quodammodo Patri tem­ pus docetur et locus.
你若指那段世代,即彷彿在聖子降生之前有一段永恆的間距,那麼看哪,你便不得不滑回先前的褻瀆,因為你在聖父與聖子之間插入了第三者——時間;你說在聖子之先,已有聖父上帝和時間。在此二者之後才有聖子。在此三者之後,第四的才是聖靈。我們若承認聖子非藉時間不能被生,且看我們所說的會延伸到何等地步。因為聖子若非無時間地存在,就必說祂只能在某地被生了。一旦承認此點,便等於教導說:在聖子與聖靈之先,時間與地方在某種意義上與聖父同存。
If to the age — that is, as it were to a certain span of eternity before the Son's nativity — behold, you slide of necessity into the earlier blasphemy, since between Father and Son you insert a third something, time; and you say that before the Son there was God the Father and time. After these two, the Son. After these three, fourth the Spirit. But if we admit that the Son could not be begotten without time, see how widely these things we say extend. For if the Son is not without time, surely he must be said to be begotten only in a place. This being admitted, before the Son and the Spirit, time and place are taught to be in a manner coeval with the Father.
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Quod si ita est, ut sine loco et tempore nasci non potuerit Filius, in quo loco, aut in quo tempore factum locum dicis et tempus? Si in nullo, ecce sine tempore et loco fieri potuit tempus et locus. Si in aliquo, id ipsum tempus videtur et lo­ cus, in cujus origine similiter et locus 'requiritur et tempus. Quod si usque adeo sine lempore et loco fieri aliquid potuit, ut nec in loco locum, nec in tempore factum doceas tempus : nescio qua temeritate con­ tendas, quod sine his nasci non potuerit Filius, qui quantum ad sanam lidem pertinet, et locum fecisse docetur et tempus. Sed de hoc satis. Nunc quod a majoribus vestris dictum prædicas, reputamus. Erat, inquis, quando non erat.
若果真如此,即聖子非有地方與時間便不能被生,那麼你說地方與時間是在哪個地方、哪個時間被造的呢?若不在任何時地中,那麼看哪,時間與地方竟能無時間無地方地產生。若是在某時地中,那地與時本身又似乎需要時間與地方,其起源同樣又要求地方與時間。但你若承認某物竟能如此無時間無地方地產生,以致你教導說既無在地方中所造的地方,也無在時間中所造的時間,那我就不知你憑何等魯莽要堅稱聖子非藉此二者不能被生——而就健全的信仰而言,聖子正是被教導為造了地方與時間的那一位。但這話夠了。如今讓我們省察你所宣揚、你先輩所說的話。你說:「曾有祂不存在的時候。」
But if it is so, that the Son could not be born without place and time, in what place, or in what time, do you say place and time were made? If in none, behold, time and place could come to be without time and place. If in some, that very thing seems to be time and place, in whose origin likewise place and time are required. But if to that extent something could come to be without time and place, that you teach neither a place made in a place, nor a time made in time, I know not by what rashness you would contend that the Son could not be born without these — he who, as far as pertains to sound faith, is taught to have made both place and time. But enough of this. Now let us consider what you proclaim was said by your elders. 'There was,' you say, 'when he was not.'
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Si erat istud ad tempus re­ feras, ecce ante Filiam tempus ; si ad Filium, nun­ quam non erat Filius : erat enim jam Filius quando non erat tempus, a quo 336 factum dicitur tempus. Sed antequam nascerctur, inquis, non fuit. Quis, quæso, non fuit antequam nasceretur? Si Filius; ecce ipso intellectu ante Filium fuisse d citur tem­ pus. Si autem antequam nasceretur Filius, non erat tempus, sequitur ut diçatur Patri Filius coxlernus, inter quem et Patrem nullum fuisse dicitur tempus : maxime cum inter cætera evangelistis attestantibus, etiam tempus fecisse dicatur Filius. Sed forte de Pa- Ire dictum aliquis putet : Erat, quando non erat Fi­ lius.
你若把這「曾有」歸於時間,看哪,時間便在聖子之先;你若歸於聖子,那麼聖子就從未不存在過:因為當時間還不存在時,聖子就已存在了,而時間據說正是由祂所造。你又說:「但在祂被生之前,祂並不存在。」我問你:在被生之前不存在的是誰?若是聖子,那麼就這理解本身而言,便等於說時間在聖子之先就存在了。但若在聖子被生之前並無時間,那就得出:聖子與聖父同永,且在祂與聖父之間據說並無時間:尤其因為按福音書作者所證,聖子甚至被說成造了時間。然而或許有人以為這話是論聖父說的:「曾有聖子不存在的時候。」
If you refer that 'was' to time, behold, time is before the Son; if to the Son, the Son never was not — for the Son already was when there was not time, by whom time is said to be made. 'But before he was born,' you say, 'he was not.' Who, I ask, was not before he was born? If the Son, behold, by that very understanding time is said to have been before the Son. But if before the Son was born there was not time, it follows that the Son is said to be coeternal with the Father, between whom and the Father there is said to have been no time — especially since, among other things, with the evangelists attesting, the Son is said even to have made time. But perhaps someone may think it said of the Father: 'There was, when the Son was not.'
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Cui sententiæ sequentia non concinunt, quibus dicitur : Et antequam nasceretur non fuit. Nam per te Pater semper existens, etiam a vobis dici non po­ test natus ; qui non ab initio docetur exortus, et in Patrem cadere non potest : Erat, quando non erat genitus. CAPUT VI. Fel. Quoniam me verbis, ut mea fert opinio, ino­ pinata subtilitate certantibus non mediocriter defa­ tigas, id irco quæso ut, si fieri potest, exemplo cu- juslibet rei, possibilc id esse quod docere conaris, ostendas. Neque enim aliter credere possum, licet vi orationis oppressus, coæternum esse genitum Pa­ tri, nisi aut utrumque genitum, aut utrumque Patrem dixeris sibi. Aug.
然而下文與此說不合,下文說:「且在祂被生之前祂並不存在。」因為按你所說,聖父既永遠存在,連你們也不能說祂是被生的;祂既不被教導為從一開端而出現,就不能歸於「曾有祂未被生的時候」這話之下。第六章。費利西安:依我之見,你以出人意料的精巧言辭與我相爭,使我大為疲憊,因此我請求你,若可能的話,用任何事物作例子,顯明你所要教導的是可能的。因為我雖被你言辭之力所壓服,卻仍不能相信被生者與聖父同永,除非你說二者皆是被生的,或說二者各自為自己的父。奧古斯丁:
With which statement the following words do not harmonize, by which it is said: 'And before he was born he was not.' For according to you the Father, always existing, cannot even by you be said to be born — he who is not taught to have arisen from a beginning, and cannot fall under [the words]: 'There was when he was not begotten.' CHAPTER VI. Fel. Since you weary me not a little, contending with words of, as I think, unexpected subtlety, I therefore ask that, if it can be done, by the example of any thing you show that what you attempt to teach is possible. For I cannot otherwise believe, though crushed by the force of your speech, that the begotten is coeternal with the Father, unless you say either that both are begotten, or that both are each a Father to themselves. Aug.
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Quoniam me ad incomparabilium rerum eiemp'a compellis, idcirco quae sit ignis potentia vi­ deamus, ex quo semper est splendor, semper est va­ por. Utrumque de eo nascitur, nec ideo tamen ignis sine horum quolibet aliquatenus invenitur. Haec tria lon se invicem gignunt, quia non de splendore ignis et vapor, aut de vapore ignis ct splendor, sed de igne splendor et vapor semper est genitus. Quae cum ita sint, videsne etiam in creaturis posse aliquid na­ ici, ncc ostendi tamen tempus quod id de quo natum est sine genito potuerit inveniri?
既然你逼我舉出無可比擬之事的例子,那麼讓我們來看火的能力:火中總是有光輝,總是有熱氣。二者皆由火而生,然而火卻從不見有絲毫缺少此二者之時。這三者彼此相生,因為並非由光輝生出火與熱氣,也非由熱氣生出火與光輝,乃是由火總是生出光輝與熱氣。既然如此,你豈不看見,即使在受造之物中也有某物能被生,卻顯不出有任何時候,那生它之源能離了所生者而被找到?
Since you compel me to examples of incomparable things, let us therefore see what is the power of fire, from which there is always splendor, always heat. Each is born of it, nor yet is fire ever found in any degree without either of these. These three mutually beget one another, because not from splendor are fire and heat, nor from heat are fire and splendor, but from fire are splendor and heat always begotten. Since these things are so, do you not see that even in creatures something can be born, nor yet is there shown any time when that from which it is born could be found without the begotten?
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Si ergo visibilibus I exemplis ista perspicimus, cur non de Patre et Fili o, vel sancto Spiritu, quantum ad communem duntaxat atque indifferentem æternitatem, similia prædice­ mus ? Neque enim ideo necesse est Patrem et Filium et Spiritum sanctum æque dicamus ingenitum, quia nullum ab ahero xvo interveniente dicimus separa­ tum : cum etiam 337 ex aliis rebus quaedam ge­ nua, nec ideo tamen aut æque gignentia, aut sine in­ vicem docentur exstantia. Sed quid prodest horum multa colligere, cum paucorum testimoniis etiam cæ­ tera liceat æstimare. Fel. Quoniam sententiam meam, præcedentium Patrum auctoritate fundatam, nova disputandi arte conturbas :
我們若藉可見的例子明白這些,為何不能對聖父、聖子、或聖靈,至少就那共有而無別的永恆而言,宣告類似的道理呢?我們說聖父、聖子、聖靈三者並無任何一位因有世代間隔而與另一位分隔,這並不因此就必須說三者同樣是非受生的:因為即使在別的事物中,有些是被生的,卻也不被教導為同樣在生,或彼此分離而存在。但何必多舉這些例子呢,既然憑少數的見證便可推知其餘。費利西安:既然你用一種新的辯論之術攪擾我那建基於前代教父權威的見解:
If therefore we perceive these things by visible examples, why should we not proclaim similar things concerning the Father and the Son, or the Holy Spirit, at least as far as the common and undifferentiated eternity is concerned? For it is not therefore necessary that we call the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit equally unbegotten, because we say that none is separated from another by an intervening age — since even from other things certain things are begotten, nor yet are they taught either to be equally begetting, or to exist without one another. But what profit is it to gather many of these, when by the testimonies of a few the rest also may be estimated? Fel. Since by a new art of disputation you disturb my opinion, founded on the authority of the preceding Fathers:
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idcirco velim mihi dicas de natura Filii Dei, id est substantia ipsa quid sentias. Si enim, ut dicere vos soletis, homousion est Patri, ipse quo­ dammoJo Pater est sibi; alioquin consubstantialis non potest esse gcnitori. Nam quidam nostrum Ho­ m' usii opinionem ridere sic solebat, dicens : Si non extrinsecus, sed ex eodem ipso prolatus est Filius, in duos quodammod o divisus est unus, quandoqui­ dem nou aliud gignens dicitur esse quam genitus. CAPUT VII. Aug. Dum nos dicis Aristotelica arte contendere, ipse ad dialecticorum laqueos videris confugisse. Sed nos fidei veritate confisos nequaquam possunt ista terrere. Quid igitur dicis? ex substantia credo Patris nasci Filium nequivisse;
因此我願你告訴我關於上帝之子的本性,即那本體本身,你是怎麼想的。因為若如你們慣常所說,祂與聖父同質(同一本體),那祂就在某種意義上是自己的父了;不然祂便不能與生祂者同質。因為我們中有人慣常這樣譏笑「同質」之說,他說:「聖子若不是從外面、而是從同一者中被生出,那這一者就在某種意義上被分成了二,因為那生者據說與被生者無異。」第七章。奧古斯丁:你一面說我們用亞里士多德之術相爭,自己卻似乎逃進了辯證家的羅網。但這些並不能恐嚇我們這些信靠信仰之真理的人。那麼你說什麼呢?「我相信聖子不可能從聖父的本體被生,
therefore I would have you tell me concerning the nature of the Son of God, that is, what you think of the substance itself. For if, as you are wont to say, he is of one substance (homoousios) with the Father, then he is in a manner Father to himself; otherwise he cannot be consubstantial with his begetter. For a certain one of us used to mock the doctrine of the Homoousion thus, saying: 'If the Son was brought forth not from without, but from the very same, then the one is in a manner divided into two, since the begetter is said to be no other than the begotten.' CHAPTER VII. Aug. While you say that we contend by Aristotelian art, you yourself seem to have fled to the snares of the dialecticians. But these things can in no way terrify us, who trust in the truth of faith. What therefore do you say? '[I believe] that the Son could not be born from the substance of the Father;
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ne ingenitum Patrem, Filii videamur generatione dividere. Quod si ita est, male creditur Filius qui non ex Patre, id est non ex eo­ dem ipso genitus, sed extrinsecus factus inter alia prædicatur. Quod ut sit intellectu facilius, id ipsum pro posse explicabo. Filiorum namque adoptivi allii, naturales alii sunt. Ii qui geniti, ab initio filii semper ac proprii : illi primo alieni, post filii, cum per ado­ ptionem in familiam videntur ascisci. Quibus ergo comparandus est Filius Dei? Si adoptivis, erit apud Patrem similis nobis. Si propriis, ex substantia sub­ stitisse dicendus est genitoris. Sed in duo, inquis, substantia paterna dividitur, si ex solo Patre substan­ tialiter Filius generatur.
免得我們因聖子之被生而似乎分割了非受生的聖父。」但若如此,那聖子便是被錯誤地相信了——祂既不是出於聖父、即不是從同一者被生,反倒被宣稱為從外面、在眾物之間被造的。為使此更易理解,我盡力解釋這一點。兒子有的是收養的,有的是親生的。那些被生的,從起初就一直是兒子,是本有的;那些收養的起初是外人,後來才成為兒子,是藉收養而被納入家中的。那麼上帝之子當比作哪一種呢?若比作收養的,祂在聖父面前便與我們相似。若比作親生的,就得說祂是出於生祂者的本體。你卻說:「聖子若單從聖父按本體被生,父的本體就被分成二了。」
lest we should seem to divide the unbegotten Father by the generation of the Son.' But if it is so, then the Son is wrongly believed, who is proclaimed as not from the Father — that is, not begotten from the very same — but as made from without among other things. That this may be easier to understand, I will explain it as far as I can. For of sons, some are adoptive, others natural. Those who are begotten are from the beginning always sons and proper to him; the others are first strangers, afterward sons, when through adoption they seem to be received into the family. To which then is the Son of God to be compared? If to the adoptive, he will be with the Father similar to us. If to the proper, he must be said to have subsisted from the substance of his begetter. 'But,' you say, 'the paternal substance is divided into two, if the Son is substantially begotten from the Father alone.'
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Hoc quam stultum sit, etiam visibilia ipsa nos docent. Quis enim unquam vel carnalium patrum gignendo divisus. est? Quod si nec in conditionem corporis cadit ipsa divisio, et nemo sic genuit filium ut se perderet medium; salva integritate Patris non potuisse nasci dicitis Filium t Sed quid plura? Nativitatem Filii Dei, ortumque ri­ mantibus, hæc, ni fallor, occurrunt; id est, ut aut ex Patre sit, aut ex nibilo, aut ex altero, aut ex seipso. Horum quaeso consequentiam videamus. 338 Si ex seipso; non recte Filius dicitur, qui non natus, sed ingenitus prædicatur. S. ei nihilo; creatura cum caeteris non creaturae auctor ostenditur. Si ex altero;
這是何等愚妄,連可見之物也教導我們。因為連肉身的父親中,又有誰曾因生育而被分割呢?這分割既連身體的狀況都不存在,也沒有人生兒子是把自己折損一半的;你們竟說聖子不能在保全聖父之完整下被生嗎?但何必多言?依我看,在探究上帝之子的降生與起源時,呈現出這些可能:即祂或是出於聖父,或出於虛無,或出於另一者,或出於自己。請讓我們看這些的推論。若出於自己,那就不該稱為子,因為祂被宣稱為非被生、乃非受生的了。若出於虛無,那祂便與其餘受造之物一同被顯為受造物,而非受造物之主。若出於另一者,
How foolish this is, even visible things themselves teach us. For who ever, even of carnal fathers, was divided by begetting? But if that division does not fall even within the condition of the body, and no one so begot a son that he lost half of himself, do you say the Son could not be born with the integrity of the Father preserved? But why more? To those examining the nativity and origin of the Son of God, these possibilities, unless I am mistaken, occur: namely, that he is either from the Father, or from nothing, or from another, or from himself. Let us, I pray, see the consequence of these. If from himself, he is not rightly called Son, who is proclaimed not as born but as unbegotten. If from nothing, he is shown to be a creature with the rest, not the author of creation. If from another,
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non ejus cui credimus, sed nescio cujus incogniti patris filius praedicatur. Quod si præter quatuor haec, inveniri non potest quintum; nec de his propter evi­ dentem blasphemiam tria praedicari penitus possunt: restat ut substanlialiter de Patre sit genitus : quia, ut diximus, ncc inveniri quintus, nec praeter primum de his doceri potest aliquis modus : ut pate cum nec creatura, nec alterius patris filius, nec ut Pater di­ catur ingenitus. CAPUT VIII. Fel. Quasi vero ego aut praeter hæc quintum, aut de bis tribus aliquid praedicarim : qui sic non ex substantia Patris exstitisse dico filium, ut tamen ex ejus voluntate non negem genitum. Aug.
那祂便被宣稱為不是我們所信者之子,而是某個不知名的、陌生之父的兒子。但若除這四者之外再找不出第五者;而這四者中又有三者因明顯的褻瀆而完全不能成立:那就只剩下祂是按本體出於聖父而被生這一說了。因為如我們所說,既找不出第五者,除第一者外也無法從這些中教導出任何別的方式:這是顯然的,因為祂既非受造物,又非別個父的兒子,也不像聖父那樣被稱為非受生的。第八章。費利西安:彷彿我真的在這四者之外加了第五者,或從這三者中宣告了什麼似的:我所說的乃是聖子並非出於聖父的本體而存在,但我也不否認祂是出於聖父的旨意而被生的。奧古斯丁:
then he is proclaimed the son not of him in whom we believe, but of some unknown father I know not whom. But if besides these four no fifth can be found, and of these four, three cannot at all be predicated because of the evident blasphemy, it remains that he was substantially begotten of the Father — because, as we said, neither can a fifth be found, nor besides the first can any mode of these be taught; as is clear, since he is neither a creature, nor the son of another father, nor, like the Father, called unbegotten. CHAPTER VIII. Fel. As if indeed I had either predicated a fifth besides these, or predicated something of these three — I who so say that the Son did not exist from the substance of the Father, that I nevertheless do not deny that he was begotten of his will. Aug.
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In unum de supradictis consequentia ipsa de­ truderis. Cum enim de Filii substantia requirimus, quem tu ex Patre substantialiter genitum non fateris. sine dubio inter alia ex nihilo factum esse conten­ dis : quandoquidem nec corruptibiles quidem creatu. ras dicimus aliter substitisse, nisi ut has Deutn ct voluisse per ineffabilem dispensationem, et potuisse pcr singularem potentiam dicamus efficere, dum ct voluntatem fuisse novimus, qua placuit Deo, et po­ testatem, qua pos e subjacct Domino. Fel. Ergo ad exstantiam Filii potestas paterna non sufficit ? Aug. Quasi ego de potestate Patris, et non de ips, paternitatis veritate contendam.
就憑這推論本身,你便被逼入上述之一。因為當我們追問聖子的本體時——你既不承認祂是按本體出於聖父而被生——你無疑就是主張祂與別物一同從虛無被造了:因為我們連會朽壞的受造物都不說是以別樣方式存在的,只說上帝藉不可言喻的安排既願意、又能憑祂獨特的大能造成它們,因我們知道既有那旨意——上帝以此為喜悅,又有那權能——萬物以此服在主之下。費利西安:那麼聖父的權能對聖子的存在還不夠嗎?奧古斯丁:彷彿我是在爭論聖父的權能,而非在爭論祂為父這一真實本身。
By that very consequence you are thrust into one of the aforesaid. For when we inquire concerning the substance of the Son, whom you do not confess to be substantially begotten of the Father, you without doubt contend that he was made from nothing among other things — since we do not say that even corruptible creatures subsisted otherwise than that God both willed them through ineffable dispensation and was able to effect them through his singular power, inasmuch as we know there was both the will by which it pleased God, and the power by which to be able lies subject to the Lord. Fel. Then is the paternal power not sufficient for the existence of the Son? Aug. As if I were contending about the power of the Father, and not about the very truth of his fatherhood.
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An ei se dici malui Patrem, quem non sibi, sed creaturis voluit esso con imilem? Et ideo fatendum tibi est, ex substantia Patris exstitisse Filium, si et natus ct D eus est: aut Filium pariter et Deum negare, si non ex paterna substantia, sed ex nulla, operante tantum, sicut etiam in aliis creaturis, Patris voluntate et potestate crea­ tus est. Fel. Quoniam me ad ejusmodi confessionem ne­ cessitate compellis, id quod a majoribus nostris dici assolet, non tacebo. Aiunt enim, creaturam esse Fi­ lium, sed perfectam, et quae dominari possit omnibus creaturis. Aug. Gaudeo quidem quod irreligiosæ prædicatio­ nis intimum virus manifesta confessione prodidcris :
難道祂寧願作那一位的父——就是祂所願意使之不與自己相似、卻與受造物相似的那一位嗎?因此你必須承認:聖子若既是被生的、又是上帝,祂就是出於聖父的本體而存在;不然就得連祂是子、是上帝都一併否認,若祂不是出於父的本體、乃是出於虛無,只憑聖父的旨意與權能、如同在別的受造物中那樣被造成的話。費利西安:既然你以必然之理逼我作這樣的承認,我就不再隱瞞我們先輩慣常所說的話。他們說聖子是受造物,但是一個完全的受造物,能管轄一切受造物。奧古斯丁:我實在歡喜,因你已藉明白的承認,吐露出這不虔之宣講最深處的毒液:
Or did he prefer to be called the Father of one whom he willed to be conformed not to himself, but to creatures? And therefore you must confess that the Son existed from the substance of the Father, if he is both born and God; or else deny equally that he is Son and God, if he was created not from the paternal substance but from nothing, only the will and power of the Father operating, as also in other creatures. Fel. Since you compel me by necessity to such a confession, I will not be silent about what is wont to be said by our elders. For they say that the Son is a creature, but a perfect one, and one able to have dominion over all creatures. Aug. I rejoice indeed that by manifest confession you have betrayed the inmost poison of an irreligious proclamation;
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nihil tamen quod credulitate 339 dignum videatur, opponis. Creatura namque est, ex eo quod aut adhuc non est, aut aliquando non fuit, rei cujuslibet cor­ ruptibilis, quantum in sc est, per omnipoteulis Dei voluntatem facta substantia. Hæc definitio utrum in Dei cadat Filium videamus. Nam Filius in eo quod est, indifferentis naturæ veritate prolatus est : quia ex eo qui est, id est ex gignente, non dissimilis na­ tus est : et ideo inter Filium et creaturam primum, nisi fallor, ista discretio est, quia ille ei Patre sub­ stantialiter gignitur; creatura non ex substantia fa­ cientis, sed ex sola voluntate ac potestate perficitur. Ista corruptibilis per naturam, nisi fuerit servata per gratiam.
然而你並未提出任何值得相信的東西。因為受造物乃是這樣的本體:它或是尚未存在,或曾經不存在,是某種會朽壞之物,就其自身而言,藉全能上帝的旨意而被造成。讓我們看這定義是否落在上帝之子身上。因為聖子就其所是而言,是在那同一本性的真實中被生出的:因為祂是出於那位「存在者」,即出於生祂者,所生不與之相異:因此,若我沒弄錯,聖子與受造物之間的首要區別就在於此——聖子是按本體出於聖父而被生;受造物則不是出於造它者的本體,乃單憑旨意與權能而被成全。後者按本性是會朽壞的,除非藉恩典得蒙保守。
yet you bring forward nothing that may seem worthy of belief. For a creature is a substance made — from the fact that it either does not yet exist, or at some time was not — of some corruptible thing, as far as in it lies, through the will of the omnipotent God. Let us see whether this definition falls upon the Son of God. For the Son, in that which he is, has been brought forth in the truth of an identical nature, because from him who is, that is, from his begetter, he is born not dissimilar; and therefore between the Son and the creature this, unless I am mistaken, is the first distinction: that he is substantially begotten of the Father, whereas the creature is perfected not from the substance of its maker, but from will and power alone. The latter is corruptible by nature, unless it be preserved by grace.
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Ille incorruptibilis , qui nascendo incorru­ ptibilem ex incorruptibili Patre videtur habere sub­ stantiam. Filius per omnia similis Patri, dissimilis creatura factori. Ille non ex co quod non est, in id quod est, et propterea nunquam in id quod non est, ex co quod est. Illa ex eo quod non cst, in id quod est : et propterea quantum ad se attinet ex eo quod est, in id quod non est, sui ortus conditione re­ vertitur. CAPUT IX. Fel. Non video quid in area no hujus obscuritatis involveris : et ideo recte facies, si id quod a te, ut mea fert opinio, incomprehensibiliter dictum est intelligibilius explicaveris. Aug. Dixi inquam de Filio, cnm eum a creaturæ definitione discernerem :
前者卻是不朽壞的,祂藉著被生,似乎從不朽壞的聖父得了不朽壞的本體。聖子在凡事上與聖父相似,受造物卻與造它者相異。前者並非從「非存在」進入「存在」,因此也永不從「存在」進入「非存在」。後者卻是從「非存在」進入「存在」:因此就其自身而言,也要從「存在」返回「非存在」,照其起源的條件而退回。第九章。費利西安:我看不出你把自己捲進了這晦澀中的哪個範圍:因此你若能更明白地解釋你那番依我看來說得令人難解的話,便是做得對了。奧古斯丁:我說,我論到聖子時,是要把祂與受造物的定義區分開來:
The former is incorruptible, who by being born seems to have an incorruptible substance from the incorruptible Father. The Son is in all things similar to the Father, the creature dissimilar to its maker. The former comes not from that which is not into that which is, and therefore never from that which is into that which is not. The latter comes from that which is not into that which is, and therefore, as far as pertains to itself, returns from that which is into that which is not, by the condition of its own origin. CHAPTER IX. Fel. I do not see in what region of this obscurity you involve yourself; and therefore you will do rightly if you will explain more intelligibly what has been said by you, as I think, incomprehensibly. Aug. I said, I say, concerning the Son, when I was distinguishing him from the definition of a creature,
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quoniam is non ex eo quod non est, in id quod est : quod talc est ac si dicerem, non ex nih lo factus est. Et propterea nunquam in id quod non cst, ex eo quod est ; id est nunquam in nihilum ex eo ipso quod est, naturæ suæ proprietate solvendus est. Creatura vero, ex eo quod non esf, in id quod est. Quo ostenditur, quia ex nihilo pro­ lata cst. Et propterca quantum ad se attinet, ex eo quod est, in id quod non est, id est in nihilum, nisi perpetua gratia fecerit, naturæ suae qualitate ver­ tenda est. Ergo nunquam non erit Filius, qui sub­ stantialitor docetur esse perpetuus ; et hoc ut pote proprio, a conditione omnium creaturarum quæ per ipsu m factæ sunt. non injuria noscitur scparandus.
就是說,祂不是從「非存在」進入「存在」:這就如同我說,祂不是從虛無被造的。因此祂也永不從「存在」進入「非存在」;即是說,祂永不照其本性的特質、從祂所是的那存在中被消解歸於虛無。但受造物卻是從「非存在」進入「存在」。由此顯明它是從虛無被生出的。因此就其自身而言,它要從「存在」進入「非存在」,即歸於虛無,除非有永恆的恩典使之不然,否則它要照其本性的性質而轉變。所以聖子永不會不存在,因祂被教導為按本體是永恆的;而這正因是祂本有的,故祂理當被認為與那一切藉祂而造的受造物之境況分別開來。
that he is not from that which is not into that which is — which is as if I should say, he was not made from nothing. And therefore never from that which is into that which is not; that is, he is never to be dissolved into nothing from that very thing which he is, by the property of his nature. But the creature is from that which is not into that which is, whereby it is shown to have been brought forth from nothing. And therefore, as far as pertains to itself, it is from that which is into that which is not, that is, into nothing — unless perpetual grace should have brought it about otherwise — it being subject to turning by the quality of its nature. Therefore the Son will never not be, who is taught to be substantially perpetual; and this, as by his own property, he is known not unjustly to be separated from the condition of all creatures which were made through him.
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Fel. Licel intelligentiam meam nova rerum subti­ litate perstringas, nescio tamen quo pacto dicas , quod coæternus Patri sit Filius : cum at communi 340 loqucndi modo, et nature lege, prior gignens videatur esse quam genitus. CAPUT X. Aug. Si naturæ auctorem creaturarum legihus æstimamus, dum anteriorem esse Patrem Filio præ­ dicamus ; cur non eadem naturae lege, fortiorem Pa- Ire Filium per accessum temporis dicimus: dum nec buic desunt incrementa nascenti, et imbecillitatis injuriam senectus ingerit Patri? Quod si hoc ratio ipsa non recipit, omittamus in Deo corporalis intelli­ gentiæ legem. ne operibus suis similem dicamus esse factorem ;
費利西安:你雖以事物的新奇精微之處震懾我的理解力,但我仍不知你憑何說聖子與聖父同永:因為按一般說話的方式和自然的法則,生者似乎先於被生者。第十章。奧古斯丁:我們若按受造物的法則來衡量自然之創造者,以致宣稱聖父先於聖子;那為何不按同一自然法則說聖子隨著時間的推進而比聖父更強壯呢——既然這出生者不缺增長,而衰老又把虛弱之損加在父身上?但理性本身既不接受此說,我們就當在上帝身上撇開那肉體性理解的法則,免得我們說造作者與祂的作品相似;
Fel. Although you press my understanding with the new subtlety of these matters, yet I know not by what manner you say that the Son is coeternal with the Father, since by the common manner of speaking and by the law of nature the begetter seems to be prior to the begotten. CHAPTER X. Aug. If we estimate the author of nature by the laws of creatures, while we proclaim the Father to be prior to the Son, why do we not by the same law of nature say the Son to be stronger than the Father through the advance of time — since increases are not lacking to this one being born, and old age inflicts the injury of weakness upon the Father? But if reason itself does not accept this, let us set aside in God the law of corporeal understanding, lest we say the maker is similar to his works;
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maxime cum ex eo quod apud nos cvidcus est, etiam id quod in occulto est possimus ostendere. Sicut enim sine exemplo mater genuit auctorem suum : sic ineffabiliter Pater genuisse credendus est Filium coæternum. De ma!re natus est qui ante jam fuit : de Patre qui aliquando non defuit. Hoc fides credat, intelligentia non requirat: ne aut non inven­ tu<n putet incredibile, aut repertum non credat sin­ ulare. Ecce enim de matre natus est Christus, nec ideo tamen per contactum viri matris pudor est im­ minutus. Virgo peperit, quia virgo concepit : et non servato rerum ordine, ex integro matris corpore in­ tegrum corpus Chrislus assumpsit.
尤其因為我們能從在我們中間顯而易見的事,去顯明那隱藏之事。因為正如一位母親無先例地生了自己的創造者:照樣,當信聖父以不可言喻的方式生了與祂同永的聖子。那從母親而生的,是早已存在的那一位:那從父而生的,是從未有缺的那一位。願信德相信此事,理智不必追究:免得它或以為凡尋不見的便是不可信的,或以為凡尋見的便不再獨特。因為看哪,基督從母親而生,然而母親的貞潔卻未因男子的接觸而受損。童貞女生產,因童貞女懷孕:且不照尋常事物的次序,基督從母親完好的身體取了完好的身體。
especially since from what is evident among us, we are able to show also that which is hidden. For just as without precedent a mother bore her own author, so ineffably must the Father be believed to have begotten the coeternal Son. Of a mother was born he who already existed before; of the Father, he who at no time was lacking. Let faith believe this, let understanding not seek it out, lest it either think incredible what it does not find, or not believe singular what it does find. For behold, Christ was born of a mother, nor yet was the mother's modesty diminished by the contact of a man. The Virgin bore, because the Virgin conceived; and, the order of nature not being preserved, Christ took an intact body from the intact body of his mother.
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Si ergo novo mo­ re, nullo exemplo, secundum carnem natus docetur ex corpore : quid mirum si non secundum consuetu­ dinem humani partus processit ex Patre? Non minuit substantiam matris, ex sola genitus filius, et sine damno corporis parientis, natum fi ii novimus cor­ pus: et minuisse incorporalem Patris substantiam ereditur, cum ex eodem ipso substantialiter atque incorporaliter prolatus, dicitur genitus? Ergo si na­ turam rcrum intelligentia duce perpendimus ; demus initium, si non negamus occasum. Alioquin ideo Fi­ lium non habere dicamus in tium, quia non per gra­ tiam, sed per naturam fatemur esse perpetuum. Ad summam, major et minor, tribus modis dici potest :
所以祂若以新的方式、毫無先例地、按肉身被教導為從一身體而生:那麼祂不照人間生育的慣例從聖父而出,又有何奇怪呢?兒子單從母親而生,並未減損母親的本體,我們也知道所生者的身體乃是在生產者的身體無損下而生的:那麼當聖子從那同一者按本體、無形地被生出、被稱為被生時,難道聖父無形的本體就被相信是減損了嗎?因此我們若以理智為引導來衡量萬物的本性;那就讓我們承認祂有起頭,只要我們不否認祂有終結。不然我們便該說聖子沒有起頭,正因我們承認祂的永恆不是藉恩典、乃是藉本性。總之,「較大」與「較小」可用三種方式來說:
If therefore in a new manner, with no precedent, he is taught to be born according to the flesh from a body, what wonder if he proceeded from the Father not according to the custom of human birth? The son begotten from her alone did not diminish the substance of the mother, and without harm to the body of the bearer we know the body of the offspring was born; and is the incorporeal substance of the Father then believed to have been diminished, when, brought forth from the very same substantially and incorporeally, he is said to be begotten? Therefore if we weigh the nature of things with understanding as guide, let us grant a beginning, if we do not deny an end. Otherwise let us say that the Son has no beginning, precisely because we confess him to be perpetual not through grace but through nature. In sum, greater and lesser can be said in three ways:
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id est, ætate, forma, potentia. Ætate senior puero; forma longior parvo ; potentia fortior imbecillo. Videamus utrum aliquid horum accidat Filio. Nam nec actane minor est, quem de principio Patre con­ stat exstitisse principium : nec 341 forma, quem non aliud fas est prædicare quam Deum, nec puten­ tia, a quo totum novimus esse perfectum. CAPUT XI. Fel. Sdre cuplo quo pacto ad Filium transit di­ gnitas Patris, et ad Patrem non recurrit humilitas prolis. Aug. Non secundum naturam ista nunc dici, quo­ tidiana rerum exempla nos docent.
即按年歲、形體、能力。按年歲,年長者大於孩童;按形體,高者大於矮小者;按能力,強者勝於孱弱者。讓我們看這三者中有哪一樣臨到聖子。祂按年歲並不較小,因祂確是從那本為開端的聖父作為開端而出現;按形體也不較小,因祂除稱為上帝外不可作別的宣稱;按能力更不較小,因我們知道萬物都由祂得以成全。第十一章。費利西安:我渴望知道,聖父的尊榮怎樣傳給聖子,而後嗣的卑微卻不回歸於聖父。奧古斯丁:日常事物的例子教導我們,這些話如今不是按本性而說的。
that is, by age, by form, by power. By age the elder is greater than the boy; by form the taller than the small; by power the stronger than the weak. Let us see whether any of these befalls the Son. For he is not lesser by age, who is established to have arisen as a beginning from the Father the beginning; nor by form, whom it is not lawful to proclaim other than God; nor by power, by whom we know all to be made perfect. CHAPTER XI. Fel. I desire to know by what manner the dignity of the Father passes to the Son, and the lowliness of the offspring does not recur to the Father. Aug. That these things are now said not according to nature, the daily examples of things teach us.
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Ecce enim pute­ mus aliquem regem ac regis filium depositis regiæ majestatis insignibus, subjecti militis indumenta sus­ cipere, et propter certam patris dispensationem ac sociorum salutem, rebellium contumelias sustinere : nunquid quia ad hunc participium regiæ potestatis certum est nativitate decurrere, idcirco ad eum qui genuit, injuriam filii non compatiendi affectu, sed ipsa passionis proprietate certum est pervenire? Non ita est, quia non ex filio patrem, sed ex patre filium certum. est natum esse. Et propterea totum inter hos simile dicimus quod pertinet ad communionem na­ turæ; illud proprium quod per accidens uni noscitur evenisse personæ.
因為看哪,讓我們設想有某位君王和王子,卸下王者威嚴的徽記,穿上一名臣屬士兵的衣服,並為著父親某種安排和同伴的安危,忍受叛黨的凌辱:王權的一份既確由出生而傳給這位王子,那麼兒子所受的凌辱,是否就因此確實會藉著——不是憑同情之愛、而是憑受苦本身的特性——傳到那生他的父身上呢?並非如此,因為確定的是:父不是從子而生,乃是子從父而生。因此我們說,凡屬本性之相通的,在這二者之間都是相同的;凡因偶性而臨到一個位格的,則是其所獨有的。
For behold, let us suppose some king and king's son who, having laid aside the insignia of royal majesty, take up the garments of a subject soldier, and on account of a certain dispensation of the father and the safety of his comrades, endure the insults of rebels. Now, because it is certain that a share of royal power descends to this son by nativity, is it therefore certain that the son's injury reaches him who begot — not by the affection of compassion, but by the very property of the suffering? It is not so, because it is certain that the father is not born of the son, but the son of the father. And therefore we say that all is similar between them which pertains to the communion of nature; that is proper which is known to have befallen one person by accident.
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Habet ergo nascendo totum Filius cum Patre quod Pater est, sed non dc Filio Pater. Quidquid specialiter ipse perpessus esi, utrisque com­ mune non est. Quod ex homine natus est homo, acci­ dens speciale est. Quod plerumque sine præjudicio communis naturæ neuter habere docetur in altero. Una est Patris substantia, una persona. Hæc cum ge­ nuit, es hac sinc dubio non diversa nosciur exsti­ tisse, sed altera; quæ non aliud docetur esse quam prima, dum et communis docetur et propria. Com­ munis, inquam, unitate substantiæ, propria discre­ tione personæ. Cum ergo in se exstet illa quæ nata est, non quidquid huic acciderit, ad gignentem neces­ sario transit;
所以聖子藉被生,與聖父同有聖父之所有,但聖父卻不從聖子而有。凡祂自己特別所受的,並非二者所共有。祂從人而生為人,乃是一種特殊的偶性。這偶性多半在無損於共有本性之下,二者中任一方都不被教導為在對方裡也有。聖父的本體是一,位格是一。這一位格在生子時,從自身產生出來的,毫無疑問不是相異者,乃是另一者;這另一者被教導為與第一者無異,因祂既被教導為共有的,又被教導為獨有的。我說,按本體之合一而為共有,按位格之分別而為獨有。所以當那被生者在自身中存在時,凡臨到這一位的,未必都必然傳到生祂者身上;
Therefore the Son by being born has with the Father all that the Father is, but the Father does not have it from the Son. Whatever he himself specially suffered is not common to both. That he was born a man from man is a special accident, which for the most part, without prejudice to the common nature, neither is taught to have in the other. One is the substance of the Father, one the person. This person, when it begot, brought forth from itself one without doubt known to be not diverse, but another — which is taught to be no other than the first, since it is taught both common and proper: common, I say, by the unity of substance, proper by the distinction of person. When therefore that which is born exists in itself, not whatever befalls this one necessarily passes to the begetter;
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sicut ad nascentem quidquid proprium ac substantiale gignentis constat c se, pervenit. Non enim sicut Filio ipsa generatione collata est divinitas Patris, sic ad Patrem refertur agritudo, paupertas, mors, humilitas prolis. Quod ideo non fit, quia quam­ vis de una, id est patris substantia fuerit similis gc­ nita : tamen quia jam in seipsa exstat, quæcunque huic intrinsecus ingeruntur, non communia dicuntur esse, sed propria. Si ergo humani generis ista con­ ditio est, cum 342 non usque adeo filii ab eo qui genuit in aliud unquam mutata substantia est, ut non eadem possit esse, sed altera ; dum extrinsecus filio accidentibus multis, manet nihilominus natura com­ munis ;
正如生祂者凡本有而屬本體之事,憑自身確立的,都傳到那被生者身上。因為神性並非像聖父藉那同一生育而賜給聖子那樣,後嗣的疾病、貧窮、死亡、卑微也照樣歸到聖父身上。這之所以不發生,是因為那被生者雖是從一個——即父的——本體被生為相似的,但因祂已在自身中存在,凡從內裡加於這一位的,便不說是共有的,乃說是獨有的。所以人類的境況既是如此——兒子的本體從生他者而來,並未變成另一本體以致不能是同一者、乃成相異者;當許多事物從外面臨到兒子時,那共有的本性仍舊存留——
just as whatever proper and substantial belongs to the begetter, established by itself, comes to the one being born. For not as the divinity of the Father was conferred on the Son by the very generation, so are the sickness, poverty, death, and lowliness of the offspring referred to the Father. This does not happen because, although it was begotten similar from one substance, that is the father's, yet because it already exists in itself, whatever things are brought into this one from within are not said to be common, but proper. If therefore this is the condition of the human race — that the substance of a son is not so far changed into another from him who begot, that it cannot be the same but becomes another; while, with many things befalling the son from without, the common nature nonetheless remains —
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quid nos de Deo atque ejus Filio dignum est credere, quid decet praedicare? Quorum quamvis se­ cundum indivisæ majestatis simplicem gloriam non sii natura dissimilis, specialiler a Filio corpus assum­ ptum est, ut humiliaretur in infirmitate carnis nostræ, qui pati nihil poterat in communis divinitate sub­ stantiae. Non assumpsit homo hominis filius alteram naturam. Et cum in eadem quæ cum Patre communis est patiatur, ad Patrem tamen non transmittit inju­ nam : nec humiliatus in Filio Deus Pater passibiliter creditur, cum non in eadem ipsa quæ utrisque com­ munis est, sed in nostra potius quam solus ipse sus­ cepit, Judxorum creditur pertulisse perfidiam.
那麼我們對上帝及其聖子當信什麼才相稱,當宣講什麼才合宜呢?論到他們,雖按那不可分之尊榮的單純榮耀而言,本性並無相異,但特別是聖子取了一個身體,為要在我們肉體的軟弱中受卑微——祂在共有神性的本體中本是毫無所能受苦的。那作人子的人並未取另一本性。雖然祂在那與聖父共有的本性中受苦,卻不把這凌辱轉移給聖父:父上帝也不被相信在聖子裡受苦而能受苦,因為祂受猶太人的背信,並不是在那二者共有的本性中受的,乃是在我們的、且是祂獨自所取的那本性中受的。
what is it worthy for us to believe concerning God and his Son, what is fitting to proclaim? Of whom, although according to the simple glory of the undivided majesty their nature is not dissimilar, specially by the Son a body was assumed, that he might be humbled in the weakness of our flesh — he who could suffer nothing in the substance of the common divinity. The man, the Son of man, did not assume another nature. And although he suffers in the same nature which is common with the Father, yet he does not transmit the injury to the Father; nor is God the Father believed to be passibly humbled in the Son, since not in that very nature which is common to both, but rather in ours, which he alone assumed, he is believed to have endured the perfidy of the Jews.
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Ad summam, quid precor est quod pendebat in cruce ? Quid est quod lancea dicitur vulnerasse? Caro p s- sibilis, an substantia deitatis? Si majestatem profanus incorporei prædicator assumpseris, corruptibicm Deum videris credere. Si passibilem carnem, non est communis ista cum Patre , ut per hanc eum possit crux illa contingere. CAPUT XII. Fel. Dum torrentis modo omnia quae a nobis sunt, dicta præcipitas, duos admodum Christos, non unum prædicas. Et non immerito; nam si in eo nihil peni­ tus divinitas pertulit, secundum hominem Christus alius fuit; alioquin per affectum communis deitatis, etiam ad Patrem passio ipsa pervenit. Aug. Non ita est.
總之,我問:那懸在十字架上的是什麼?那被槍所刺傷的又是什麼?是會受苦的肉體,還是神性的本體?你這宣講無形之神者,若褻瀆地把那威嚴算作受刺,你便是顯出相信一位會朽壞的上帝。若是會受苦的肉體,那肉體與聖父並不共有,以致那十字架能藉它觸及聖父。第十二章。費利西安:你既像急流一般把我們所說的一切沖走,你所宣講的便是兩位基督,而非一位了。這也不無道理;因為若在祂裡面神性全然毫無所受,那按人而言的基督便是另一位了;不然,藉著共有神性之情,那受苦本身也就達到聖父了。奧古斯丁:並非如此。
In sum, what, I pray, is that which hung upon the cross? What is that which the lance is said to have wounded? Passible flesh, or the substance of deity? If, a profane preacher of the incorporeal, you should take it to be the majesty, you will be seen to believe a corruptible God. If passible flesh, this is not common with the Father, so that through it that cross could touch him. CHAPTER XII. Fel. While, in the manner of a torrent, you sweep away all the things said by us, you proclaim two Christs indeed, not one. And not without reason; for if the divinity suffered nothing at all in him, then Christ according to the man was another; otherwise, through the affection of the common deity, that passion also reached the Father. Aug. It is not so.
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