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Against the Pagans 7 part 4/4

Latin original · 26 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss · long chapter, split into parts; this part covers 7:122–7:147 (147 verses in all)

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7:122
Consimili ratione per alias ire licebit historias et ostendere in his quoque longe aliud quam esse dii debeant de his ipsis dici et earum in expositionibus indicari, velut in hac ipsa quam deinceps ponam, una ei duabusve coniunctis, fastidium ne inmoderatione pariatur. 2. [a. Non imus infitias in annalium scriptis contineri haec | f. 157b | omnia quae sunt a vobis in oppositione prolata. b. Nam et ipsi pro modulo ingeniique pro captu et legimus haec eadem et esse posita scimus, sed quae stionis in hoc summa est, utruane hi dii sint, quos saevire adseveratis offensos reddique ludis et sacrificiis mites, an sint longe aliud et ab huius vi debeant et nominis et potentiae segregari. c.
By a like reasoning it will be permitted to go through the other histories and to show in these also that a thing far other than what gods ought to be is told of these very beings and indicated in the expositions of them—as in this very one which I shall next set down, one alone or two joined together, lest by immoderation weariness be bred. We do not deny that in the writings of the annals all these things are contained which have been brought forward by you in opposition. For we ourselves too, according to the measure and grasp of our understanding, both read these same things and know that they stand set down; but the sum of the question in this is whether these are gods, whom you assert to rage when offended and to be rendered mild by games and sacrifices, or whether they are something far other, and ought to be set apart both from the force of this name and of this power.
以同樣的道理,人也可以逐一遍歷其餘的歷史,並在其中同樣顯明:關於這些存有本身,所述說的、在其記述中所指出的,遠非神所當是的那樣——正如我接下來要載下的這一則,只取一則、或兩則合併,免得因過度冗長而生厭倦。我們並不否認,在編年史的記述中確實載有你們提出來反駁的這一切。因為我們自己也照著我們才智的分量與領悟去讀了這同一些事,並知道它們白紙黑字地載明;但這裡問題的要旨在於:究竟這些是不是神——就是你們斷言受冒犯時會暴怒、藉競技與祭獻便得溫和的那些——抑或他們是全然另一回事,理當既與這名號的效力、也與這權能分別開來。
7:123
Quis est enim primum qui eos deos existimet aut esse qui credat, qui motibus et saltationibus scaenicis, qui cantheriis frustra currentibus voluptatum solvuntur in gaudia, ineptas et frigidas actiones spectatum proficiscuntur e caelo offendique se doleant et suis honoribus derogatum, si paulisper constiterit ludius aut tibicen modice interquieverit fessus, qui praesulem sibi displicuisse pronuntient, si per circi medium pergat nocens aliquis meritorum poenas et supplicia redditurus? d. Quae si penitus cuncta et sine ulla gratificatione cernantur, non tantum ab diis esse repperientur aliena, verum ab homine quovis lauto nec ad summos apices gravitatis ac ponderis instituto. e.
For who is there, in the first place, who would suppose them to be gods, or who would believe that they are gods, who by the movements and dancing of the stage, who when the gelding-horses run to no purpose, are dissolved into the joys of pleasures; who set out from heaven to watch inept and lifeless performances, and grieve that they are affronted and that their honors are slighted, if for a little while a player has stood still or a flute-player, weary, has rested a moment; who declare that the leader of the dance has displeased them, if some guilty man, about to render the penalties and punishments for his deserts, passes through the middle of the circus? If all these things be examined thoroughly and without any partiality, they will be found alien not only to gods, but even to any refined man not schooled to the highest peaks of gravity and weight.
因為首先,有誰會認為他們是神明,或相信他們是神呢?這些神竟因舞台上的動作與跳躍、因那些徒然奔馳的閹馬而沉溺於歡愉的享樂之中;他們竟從天上下來觀看那些愚蠢而乏味的表演,並因自己被冒犯、榮譽受損而哀傷——若演員稍稍停頓片刻,或吹笛者疲倦而略事休息;他們竟宣稱領舞者令他們不悅,若有某個罪人為其應得的罪行前去接受刑罰,穿過競技場中央。倘若這一切都被徹底而毫無偏袒地審視,就會發現它們不僅與神格格不入,甚至與任何未受最高莊重與威嚴陶養的文雅之人也不相稱。
7:124
Quis est enim primum deos illos qui existimet aut esse qui credat, qui nocendi habeant saeviendique naturas easque abiciant rursus cyatho uno sanguinis et thuris suffitione molliti, qui motibus scaenicis et saltationibus histrionum festos dies ducant et hilaritatis plenissimas voluptates, qui cantherios frustra et sine ulla ratione currentes spectatum proficiscantur e caelo gaudeantque ea his alios transire, transiri, pronos et cernuos ruere, cum curribus resupinos verti, trahi alios debiles | f.
For who is there, in the first place, who would suppose those to be gods, or who would believe that they are gods, who possess natures for harming and raging, and yet lay these aside again, softened by a single cup of blood and by the burning of incense; who spend festal days and pleasures brimming with mirth in the movements of the stage and the dancing of actors; who set out from heaven to watch the gelding-horses running to no purpose and without any reason, and rejoice that some overtake others in these contests, that others are overtaken, that men fall forward and headlong, are overturned along with their chariots and lie on their backs, that others, crippled, are dragged along,
因為首先,有誰會認為那些是神明,或相信他們是神呢?這些神本具有傷害與暴怒的本性,卻又因一杯血和焚香而軟化,將本性拋諸腦後;他們竟在舞台的動作與伶人的舞蹈中度過節慶之日,享受滿溢歡笑的樂趣;他們竟從天上下來觀看那些徒然而毫無道理奔馳的閹馬,並喜見有的在賽中超越他人,有的被超越,有的向前撲倒、頭朝下墜落,連人帶車翻覆仰臥,有的殘廢而被拖行,
7:125
158 | et cruribus claudicare praefractis, qui praesulem sibi displicuisse pronuntient si per circi medium pergat nocens aliquis meritorum poenas et supplicia redditurus, qui offensos se doleant et suis honoribus derogatum, si paulisper constiterit ludius, interquieverit tibicen fessus, puer ille matrimus decidat fortuito alicuius instabilitate prolapsus ? f. Quae si penitus cuncta et sine ulla partium gratificatione pendantur, non tantum longe longeque ab diis esse repperiuntur aliena, verum quovis homine sentiente communia nec ad studium veri rationum cognitionibus erudito]. 3.
and limp on legs broken to pieces; who declare that the leader of the dance has displeased them if some guilty man, about to render the penalties and punishments for his deserts, passes through the middle of the circus; who grieve that they are affronted and that their honors are slighted, if for a little while a player has stood still, if a weary flute-player has paused, if that boy whose mother is living should chance to fall, having slipped through the unsteadiness of someone? If all these things be weighed thoroughly and without any partiality, they are found to be not only far, far removed from gods, but common to any sentient man, even one not trained by the study of truth in the knowledge of reasons.
並且靠著折斷的腿一瘸一拐;他們竟宣稱領舞者令他們不悅,若有某個罪人為其應得的罪行前去接受刑罰,穿過競技場中央;他們竟因自己被冒犯、榮譽受損而哀傷——若演員稍稍停頓片刻,若疲倦的吹笛者略作停息,若那母親尚在的男孩因某人的不穩而滑跌偶然摔倒。倘若這一切都被徹底而毫無偏袒地衡量,就會發現它們不僅與神相去甚遠,甚至與任何有感覺的人也是共通的,即使那人未曾以求真之心受過理性認知的訓練。
7:126
"Post advectos, inquitis, transmarinis ea gentibus deos quosdam postque condita his templa, post cumulatas sacrificiis aras male habens sese recreatus convaluit populus et pestilentes morbi inducta sinceritate fugerunt" [Liv. X,47]. - "Qui, effamini, dii quaeso?". 4. "Aesculapius, inquitis, Epidauro, bonis deus valetudinibus praesidens et Tiberina in insula constitutus". - Si esset nobis animus scrupulosius ista tractare, vobis ipsis obtineremus auctoribus, minime illum fuisse divum, qui conceptus et natus muliebri alvo esset, qui annorum gradibus ad eum finem ascendisset aetatis in quo illum vis fulminis, vestris quomadmodum litteris continetur, et vita expulisset et lumine. 5.
"After certain gods were brought over from nations across the sea," you say, "and after temples had been founded for them, and after altars had been heaped with sacrifices, the people, ailing, recovered and grew strong, and the pestilential diseases fled when purity had been brought in." "Which gods, pray, speak out?" "Aesculapius," you say, "from Epidaurus, a god presiding over good health, and established on the Tiberine island." If we had a mind to treat these matters more scrupulously, we should prove against you, on the authority of your own writers, that he was by no means a god, since he was conceived and born from a woman's womb, and by the steps of years had climbed up to that end of life at which the force of the thunderbolt—as is contained in your own literature—drove him out of both life and light.
你們說:「在從海外諸民族引進了某些神明之後,在為他們建造了神廟、在祭壇上堆滿了祭品之後,原本染病的百姓便康復強健起來,瘟疫也在潔淨被引入後遁逃了。」——「請問是哪些神?請說。」「你們說:是埃斯庫拉庇烏斯,來自埃庇道洛斯,掌管健康的神,安置在臺伯河的島上。」倘若我們有意更嚴謹地探討此事,我們便能憑你們自己作者的權威向你們證明:他絕非神明,因為他是由婦人的胎孕育而生,並隨著歲月的階梯攀至那生命的終點——正如你們自己的文獻所載——雷電之力在那裡將他逐出了生命與光明。
7:127
Sed quaestione ab ista discedimus, Coronidis filius sit, ut vultis, ex immortalium numero et perpetua praeditus sublimitate caelesti. - Ex Epidauro tamen quid est aliud adlatum nisi magni agminis coluber? fidem si annalium sequimur et exploratam eis adtribuimus veritatem: nihil, ut conscriptum est, aliud. | f. 158 b | 6. Quid ergo dicemus?
But we withdraw from this question. Let him be, as you wish, the son of Coronis, of the number of the immortals and endowed with perpetual heavenly sublimity. Yet from Epidaurus what else was brought but a serpent of a great troop? If we follow the faith of the annals and attribute to them a tested truth: nothing else, as it is recorded. What then shall we say?
但我們姑且撇開這個問題。就依你們所願,讓他是科洛尼斯之子,位列不朽者之中,稟有恆久的天上崇高。然而從埃庇道洛斯被帶來的,除了一條龐然成群的巨蛇之外,還有什麼呢?若我們相信編年史的記載,並認定其中所記為經證實的真理:正如所寫,別無其他。那麼我們該說什麼呢?
7:128
Aesculapius iste quem praedicatis, deus praestans, sanctus deus, salutis dator, vale tudinum pessimarum propulsator, prohibitor et eatinctor, serpentis est forma et circumscriptione finitus, per terram conreptans, caeno natis ut vermiculis mos est, solum mento radit et pectore, tortuosis voluminibus se trahens, atque ut pergere prorsus possit, partem sui postremam conatibus prioris adducit. 45 [or 42].1.
This Aesculapius whom you proclaim, an outstanding god, a holy god, the giver of health, the repeller, hinderer, and extinguisher of the worst diseases, is a serpent in form and bounded by its outline, creeping over the ground, as is the custom of little worms born in the mire; he scrapes the ground with chin and breast alone, dragging himself along in winding coils, and, that he may be able to go forward at all, he draws up his hindmost part by the efforts of the foremost.
你們所頌揚的這位埃斯庫拉庇烏斯——卓越的神、神聖的神、健康的賜予者、最惡疾病的驅逐者、阻遏者與撲滅者——竟是一條蛇形、受其輪廓所限的東西,在地上匍匐爬行,如同生於泥污的小蟲的習性;他只用下巴和胸膛刮擦地面,扭曲盤繞地拖著自己前行,並且為了能夠向前移動,還須靠前身的努力把後身拖曳過來。
7:129
Et quoniam legitur usus cibis etiam, quibus vita in corporibus inmoratur, habet patulas fauces, quibus cibos transvoret oris hiatibus adpetitos, habet receptaculum ventris [ut] ubi mansa et vorata decoquat viscera, sanguis detur ut corpori et viribus redintegratio subrogetur, habet et eatremos tramites, per quos inmunda faea eat aversabili corpora foeditate deonerans. 2.
And since he is read to have also used food, by which life lingers in bodies, he has gaping jaws, by which with open mouth he may swallow down the food he has sought; he has the receptacle of a belly, where he may digest the flesh chewed and devoured, so that blood may be given to the body and a renewal of strength be supplied; he has also the outermost passages, through which he unloads the unclean filth by the loathsome foulness of his body.
既然據載他也進食——生命藉此在軀體中得以維繫——他便有張開的顎,用張大的口吞下所覓得的食物;他有腹部的容器,在那裡消化咀嚼吞下的血肉,好使血液供給軀體、力量得以更新;他也有末端的通道,藉以卸下污穢,用其軀體令人作嘔的骯髒排泄不潔之物。
7:130
Si quando mutat loca et ab aliis transgredi in alias regiones parat, non ut deus obscure per caeli evolat sidera punctoque in temporis ubi causa postulaverit sistitur, sed velut animal brutum vehiculum quo sustineatur petit, undas pelagi vitat atque ut tutus possit incolumisque praestari, cum hominibus navem ascendit et ille publicae sanitatis deus fragili se ligno et tabularum compagibus credit. 3. Non arbitramur evincere atque obtinere vos posse, Aesculapium illum fuisse serpentem, nisi hunc colorem volueritis inducere, ut in anguem dicatis convertisse se deum, quo mentiri se posse t nec possent quisnam esset aut qualis homines intueri. 4.
If at any time he changes places and prepares to pass from some regions into others, he does not, as a god, fly obscurely through the stars of heaven and set himself in a point of time wherever the cause demands, but, like a brute animal, seeks a vehicle by which he may be carried; he avoids the waves of the sea, and, that he may be kept safe and unharmed, boards a ship along with men, and that god of the public health entrusts himself to fragile wood and to the joinings of planks. We do not think you can prevail and maintain that Aesculapius was that serpent, unless you wish to introduce this coloring, so as to say that the god changed himself into a snake, that he might be able to disguise himself, and that men could not perceive who or of what sort he was.
倘若他有時要更換地方,準備從某些地域移往另一些地域,他並不像神那樣隱密地穿越天上的群星、在頃刻之間隨事需要而現身,而是像一頭蠢笨的畜牲那樣尋求承載他的交通工具;他躲避海浪,並且為求安然無恙地保全,竟與人同乘一船,這位掌管公眾健康的神竟把自己託付給脆弱的木頭和拼接的船板。我們不認為你們能夠力主並堅持說埃斯庫拉庇烏斯就是那條蛇,除非你們想引入這樣的粉飾之詞,說那神把自己變成了蛇,好能隱藏自己,使人無法看出他是誰、是何等樣的存在。
7:131
Quod si fuerit a vobis dictum, quam infirmiter invalideque dicatur ipsa rerum inaequalitas indicabit. Si enim | f. 159 | se deus videri ab hominibus evitabat, nec in forma serpentis velle debuit conspici, cum in qualibet forma non ab ipso se alius, sed ipse esset futurus. 5. Sin autem intenderat cernendum se dare, non [debuit] oculorum negare conspectui, cur non talem videri se praebuit, qualem sciebat se esse qualemque se noverat sui numinis in potentia contineri? 6.
But if this be said by you, how feebly and weakly it is said, the very inconsistency of the matter will show. For if the god shunned being seen by men, he ought not to have wished to be beheld even in the form of a serpent, since in any form whatever it would not be another, but he himself, who was to be. But if, on the other hand, he had intended to give himself to be seen, he ought not to have denied himself to the sight of the eyes; why did he not offer himself to be seen such as he knew himself to be, and such as he knew himself to be contained in the power of his own divinity?
但若你們如此宣稱,事情本身的矛盾就會顯明這說法何等無力而站不住腳。因為若那神避免被人看見,他就連以蛇的形態現身也不該願意,因為無論以何種形態,那將要顯現的都不是別人,正是他自己。但反過來說,若他有意讓人看見自己,他就不該拒絕呈現於眼目之前;他為何不以他自知的本相、以他自知蘊藏於自身神性大能中的模樣顯現自己呢?
7:132
Erat enim hoc potius multoque praestantius augustaeque conveniens dignitati quam fieri beluam horrentisque animalis in similitudinem verti et dare ambiguis contradictionibus locum, essetne verus deus an nescio quid aliud longeque ab supera sublimitate seiunctum. 46 [or 43].1. "Sed si deus, inquit, non erat, cur e navi postquam extulit sese et Tiberinam ad insulam repsit, nusquam statim conparuit et viderier ut ante desiit?. - Possumus enim scire, utrumne aliquod obstaculum fuerit, cuius sese obiectu atque oppositione protexerit, an hiatus aliquis?". 2. - Vos pronuntiate, vos dicite, quidnam illud fuerit aut cuinam rerum generi debuerit applicari, si personarum officia sunt certa certarum.
For this would rather have been far more excellent and befitting an august dignity, than to become a beast and to be turned into the likeness of a bristling animal, and to give occasion for ambiguous disputes as to whether he was a true god or some other thing I know not what, far removed from the loftiness above. "But if he was not a god," one says, "why, after he brought himself out of the ship and crept to the Tiberine island, did he not at once appear anywhere and cease to be seen as before?" For can we know whether some obstacle stood in the way, by whose interposition and blocking he protected himself, or some cleft? Do you pronounce, do you say, what that thing was, or to what class of things it ought to be assigned, if the functions of definite persons are certain.
因為這本更為卓越、更配得上尊貴的威嚴,勝過變成野獸、化為毛髮豎立之獸的模樣,並給人留下模稜兩可的爭辯餘地:他究竟是真神,還是某種我不知為何、與上界崇高相去甚遠之物。「但若他不是神,」有人說,「為何他從船中出來爬上臺伯島之後,並未立即在某處現身、如先前那樣不再被人看見?」我們豈能知道是否有某種障礙擋在中間,他藉其遮蔽阻擋而自保,或是某道裂隙呢?請你們宣告、請你們說明:那究竟是什麼,或應歸入何類事物——若既定人物的職能是確定的。
7:133
Vestra cum res ista sit deque vestro numine vestraque et religione tractetur, vestrum est potius edocere vestrumque monstrare, quid illa res fuerit, nostras velle quam exaudire sententias nostraque easpectare decreta. 3. Nam nos quidem quid aliud possumus dicere, nisi quod fuit et visum est, quod historiae prodidere omnes et ocularum sensibus est conprehensum? Hanc tamen scilicet colubram validissimi corporis et prolixitatis inmensae aut, si nomen hoc sordidum est, anguem dicimus, serpentem nominitamus, aut si quod aliud nobis usus vocamen | f. 159b | obtulerit aut ampliatio sermonis ecfinxerit. 4.
Since this matter is yours, and it is treated concerning your divinity and your religion, it is rather for you to teach, for you to show, what that thing was, than to wish to hear our opinions and to await our decisions. For what else indeed can we say, except what it was and was seen to be, what all the histories have handed down and what was grasped by the senses of the eyes? Yet this we call, forsooth, a snake of most powerful body and immense length, or, if this name is too base, a serpent; we name it a creeping thing, or by whatever other term usage has offered us or the amplification of speech has fashioned.
既然此事屬於你們,且是關乎你們的神明、你們的宗教而論的,那麼理當由你們來教導、由你們來指明那究竟是什麼,而非要來聽取我們的意見、等待我們的裁定。因為我們除了說出它本是什麼、被看見是什麼——一切歷史所傳、眼目感官所把握的之外,還能說什麼呢?然而我們自然把這稱作一條體軀極其強壯、身長無比的巨蛇,或者若此名太過卑俗,就稱之為蛇;我們稱它為爬行之物,或用習慣所提供給我們、或言語鋪陳所造出的任何別的名稱。
7:134
Si enim repsit ut coluber non pedibus se ferens neque suas subexplicans itiones sed ventre nisus ac pectore, si ex materia formatus carnis longitudinem porrigebatur in lubricam, caput si habuit atque caudam, si obsita squamis terga, si macularum corium suffectionibus varium, si os dentibus horridum et ad infligendos instructum morsus: quid aliud possumus quam generis eum dicere fuisse terreni, quamvis fuerit inmanis et nimius, quamvis illum ab Regulo exercitus vi caesum longitudine corporis et robore anteiret? 5. "Sed aliud nos remur et labefactamus et destruimui veritatem". - Ergo vestrum est explicare quidnam ille fuerit vel cuius generis, nominis et qualitatis cuius.
For if it crept like a snake, not carrying itself on feet nor unfolding its own paths, but pressing forward on belly and breast; if, formed from the material of flesh, it stretched out its length into a slippery shape; if it had a head and a tail; if its back was overgrown with scales; if its hide was mottled with a variety of markings; if its mouth was bristling with teeth and equipped to inflict bites: what else can we say than that it was of earthly kind, however monstrous and huge it was, however it surpassed in length and strength of body that one slain by Regulus's army by force? "But we think otherwise, and we shake and destroy the truth." Therefore it is for you to explain what that thing was, or of what kind, of what name and of what quality.
因為若它像蛇那樣爬行,不用腳承載自己,也不展開自己的路徑,而是靠腹與胸奮力前進;若它由血肉之質構成,把身軀伸展成滑溜的形狀;若它有頭有尾;若它的背覆滿鱗片;若它的皮以斑駁的花色雜染;若它的口滿佈牙齒、裝備著咬噬之器:那麼除了說它屬於地上之類外,我們還能說什麼呢?——縱使它龐大無比,縱使它在體軀的長度與力量上勝過雷古盧斯的軍隊所殺的那一條。「但我們另有看法,是你們在動搖並摧毀真理。」那麼便該由你們來解釋那究竟是什麼、屬於何類、何名、何等品性。
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Nam deus esse qui potuit, cum haberet ea quae diximus, quae dii habere non debent, si cogitant dii esse et vocaminis huius eminentiam possidere? 6. "Tiberinam postquam ad insulam repsit, nusquam continuo apparuit: qua ea re numen fuisse monstratur". - Possumus enim scire, utrumne istic aliquod rei fuerit alicuius obstaculum, cuius sese obiectu atque oppositione protexerit, an hiatus aliquis aut ea molibus inaequaliter aggeratis successus quidam et fornices, in quos intulit se raptim circumscripto tuentium visus? Quid enim, si flumen transilivit? quid, si transnatavits quid, si silvarum densitatibus se dedit?
For how could it be a god, when it had those things which we have mentioned, which gods ought not to have, if they think that they are gods and possess the eminence of this appellation? "After it crept to the Tiberine island, it did not immediately appear anywhere: by this fact it is shown to have been a divinity." For can we know whether there was there some obstacle of some thing, by whose interposition and blocking it protected itself, or some cleft, or in the piled-up masses heaped unevenly some passages and arches, into which it hurriedly bore itself, and the sight of those watching was cut off? For what if it leaped across the river? what if it swam across? what if it gave itself to the thickets of the woods?
因為它既有我們所提到的那些東西——那些神若自認為神、並自認擁有此稱號之尊貴便不該有的東西——它又怎能是神呢?「它爬上臺伯島之後並未立即在任何地方現身:由此便顯明它曾是一位神。」我們豈能知道那裡是否有某物的某種障礙,它藉其遮擋阻攔而自保,或是某道裂隙,或在那不均勻堆疊的土堆中有某些通道與拱穴,它匆忙鑽入其中,而觀看者的視線便被切斷?——因為它若躍過河去呢?若泅水而過呢?若隱入密林深處呢?
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Argumentatio flaccida est, ea re suspicari deum illum fuisse serpentem, quod ab oculis sese properata omni festinatione subtrait, eam deum non fuisse eadem rursus possit argumentatione monstrari. 47 [or 44].1. "Sed si deus praesens anguis ille non fuit, cur post illius adventum pestilentiae vis fracta est | f. 160 | et populo salus est reddita Romano?". - 2. Referimus et nos contra: si ex libris fatalibus vatumque responsis invitari ad urbem deus Aesculapius iussus est, ut ab luis contagio morbisque pestilentibus tutam eam incolumem que praestaret, et venit non aspernatus, ut dicitis, colubrarum in formam conversus:
The argument is limp, that from this one should suspect that god to have been a serpent, because with all haste and hurry it withdrew itself from the eyes; for by the very same argument it could in turn be shown not to have been a god. "But if that snake was not a god present, why, after its arrival, was the force of the pestilence broken and health restored to the Roman people?" We too reply against this: if from the books of fate and the responses of the seers the god Aesculapius was bidden to be invited to the city, that he might keep it safe and unharmed from the contagion of plague and pestilential diseases, and he came, not disdaining, as you say, to be changed into the form of a snake:
這論證軟弱無力:僅因那東西以萬般匆忙急速從眾人眼前退去,就據以推斷那神曾是一條蛇;因為憑同樣的論證,反倒可以證明它並非神。「但若那蛇並非一位臨在的神,為何在它到來之後,瘟疫之勢便被打破,健康得以歸還羅馬人?」我們也如此反駁:若埃斯庫拉庇烏斯神是照命運之書與卜者的神諭之命被召至城中,好使城免受瘟疫傳染與致命疾病之害而安然無恙,並且他如你們所說並不嫌棄化為蛇形而來:
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cur totiens Romana civitas mali huius afflicta est cladibus, totiens aliis aliisque temporibus dilacerata, vexata est et innumeris stragibus civium minor facta est milibus? 3. Cum enim deus adcitus in hoc esse dicatur, ut omnino omnes causas quibus pestilentia conflabatur averteret, sequebatur ut civitas intacta esse deberet flatuque a noxio inmunis semper innocuaque praestari. 4. Atquin videmus, ut superius dictum est, saepenumero his morbis cursus eam vitae habuisse funestos nec dispendiis levibus esse populi fractas debilitatasque virtutes. 5. Ubi ergo Aesculapius fuit, ubi ille promissus oraculis venerabilibus?
why was the Roman state so many times afflicted with the calamities of this evil, so many times, at various other times, torn and harassed, and diminished by the countless slaughters of thousands of its citizens? For since the god is said to have been summoned for this, that he might avert absolutely all the causes by which pestilence was kindled, it followed that the state ought to have been untouched and always kept immune and unharmed from any noxious blast. And yet we see, as was said above, that many a time it had a deadly course of life from these diseases, and that the powers of the people were shattered and enfeebled by no light losses. Where then was Aesculapius, where was he who had been promised by venerable oracles?
為何羅馬邦國竟屢次遭受這惡疾的災殃打擊,屢次在其他不同時期被撕裂、被侵擾,並因其成千上萬市民的無數殺戮而人口銳減呢?因為那神既據稱是為此被召來,好徹底防止一切引發瘟疫的緣由,那麼按理城邦本應絲毫不受侵害,永遠得保免疫、不受任何有害瘴氣之害。然而我們卻看見——正如上文所言——它屢次因這些疾病而遭致命的境遇,百姓的力量也因非輕微的損耗而被擊碎削弱。那麼埃斯庫拉庇烏斯在哪裡呢?那位曾被尊貴神諭所應許的又在哪裡呢?
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Cur templa post condita sibique exaedificata delubra diutius + habere perpessus est bene meritae civitatis luem, cum in id esset adcitus, ut et malis mederetur instantibus nec sineret in futurum tale aliquid quod metueretur inrepere? 48 [or 45].1. Nisi forte aliquis dicet "minoribus et consequentibus saeculis idcirco dei talis defuisse custodiam, quod impiis iam moribus et inprobabilibus viveretur, opem autem contulisse maioribus, quod innoxii fuerint et ab omni scelerum contagione dimoti". 2. - Quod ratione cum aliqua et audiri forsitam potuisset et dici, si aut in temporibus | f.
Why, after temples had been founded and shrines built for him, did he so long suffer the plague to afflict the well-deserving state, when he had been summoned for this very purpose, that he might both heal present evils and not allow anything of the kind to be feared to creep in for the future? Unless perhaps someone will say that "the guardianship of such a god was for this reason lacking to the lesser and following ages, because men then lived with impious and unapprovable morals, but that he brought aid to the ancestors, because they were harmless and removed from all contagion of crimes." This indeed could perhaps have been heard and said with some reason, if either in ancient times all to a man were good, or the following times bred all men bad,
為何在為他建造神廟、修築聖祠之後,他竟長久容忍瘟疫折磨這功勳卓著的邦國,儘管他正是為此被召來——好既醫治當前的災禍,又不容任何令人畏懼的同類禍患在日後潛入?除非有人會說:「對後來較晚的世代之所以缺乏這位神的守護,乃因當時的人生活敗壞、道德不堪,而他之所以援助先祖,是因他們無害且遠離一切罪惡的沾染。」——這話倒或許還能憑幾分道理被聽取、被說出,倘若上古之人個個盡皆為善,或後來的世代所生盡皆為惡、
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160b | priscis omnes essent usque ad unum boni aut sequentia tempora malos omnes generarent et nulla diversitate discretos. 3. Cum vero res ita sit, ut in magnis populis, nationibus, quinimmo et in civitatibus cunctis mixtum sit humanum genus naturis voluntatibus moribus tamque potuerint in prioribus saeculis quam in novellis aetatibus boni simul malique existere, stultum satis est dicere, propter malitias posteros auxilia numinum non meruisse mortales. 4. Si enim propter malos sequentium saeculorum boni non sunt protecti temporum novellorum, et propter antiquos malos boni aeque maiores non debuerant mereri benivolentiam numinum:
and distinguished by no diversity. But since the matter is so, that in great peoples, in nations, indeed also in all states, the human race is mixed in natures, wills, and morals, and the good could exist alongside the bad as much in earlier ages as in newer times, it is foolish enough to say that on account of the wickednesses of posterity mortals did not deserve the aid of the divinities. For if on account of the bad of the following ages the good of the newer times were not protected, then on account of the ancient bad the good ancestors likewise ought not to have deserved the benevolence of the divinities:
且無一例外毫無差別。但既然事情實情如此:在偉大的民族、國族、乃至一切城邦之中,人類在本性、意志與道德上都是混雜的,善人與惡人在早先的世代與較新的時代同樣都可能並存,那麼要說因後世的邪惡,世人便不配得神明的援助,就未免太過愚蠢了。因為若因後世的惡人,較新時代的善人便得不到保護,那麼因上古的惡人,善良的先祖也同樣不該配得神明的仁慈:
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sin propter bonos priscos mali etiam conservati sunt prisci, et propter bonos minores aetas debuit sequens, quamvis esset inprobabilis, protegi. 5. Aut ergo iam fracta atque inminuta vi morbi anguis ille perlatus famam conservatoris adsumpsit, cum nihil omnino commoditatis attulisset, aut fatalia dicenda sunt carmina multum veris aberravisse praesagiis, cum remedium ab his datum non deinceps cunctis sed auailio fuisse uni tantum repperiatur aetati. 49 [or 46].1. "Sed et Magna, inquit, Mater accita ea Phrygio Pessinunte iussis consimiliter vatum salutaris populo et magnarum causa laetitiarum fuit. 2.
but if on account of the good of old the ancient bad also were preserved, then on account of the good of the younger, the following age too ought to have been protected, however unapprovable it was. Either, therefore, when the force of the disease was already broken and diminished, that snake was brought over and assumed the fame of a preserver, though it had brought no advantage at all; or the songs of fate must be said to have wandered far from true presages, since the remedy given by them is found to have been afforded thereafter not to all, but only to a single age. "But the Great Mother also," one says, "summoned from Phrygian Pessinus likewise by the bidding of seers, was salutary to the people and the cause of great rejoicings.
但若因上古之善,連上古的惡人也得蒙保全,那麼因較晚者之善,後來的世代——縱然不堪嘉許——也本該得蒙保護。因此,要麼是在疾病之勢已被打破削弱之後,那蛇才被帶來、僭得救助者之名,其實它毫無裨益;要麼就得說命運之歌大大偏離了真確的預兆,因為由它們所賜的救治,經查竟非此後施予眾人,而僅賜予唯一一個世代。「但你們說,那位大母神也是照卜者之命同樣從弗里吉亞的佩西努斯被召來,對百姓有益,並成為大喜樂的緣由。
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- Nam et diu potens hostis ab Italiae possessione detrusus est et gloriosis inlustribusque victoriis decus urbis restitutum est pristinum et imperii fines longe lateque porrecti et innumeris gentibus civitatibus populis libertatis ius raptum est et iugum | f. 161 | servitutis inpositum, multaeque res aliae foris domique perfectae ineluctabili firmitate gentis nomen maiestatemque fundarunt". 3.
For the enemy, long powerful, was driven from the possession of Italy, and by glorious and illustrious victories the ancient honor of the city was restored, and the bounds of empire were extended far and wide, and from countless nations, states, and peoples the right of liberty was snatched away and the yoke of servitude imposed, and many other things accomplished abroad and at home established the name and majesty of the race with unconquerable firmness."
因為那長久強盛的敵人被逐出義大利的佔領,藉著光榮顯赫的勝利,城邦昔日的尊榮得以恢復,帝國的疆界廣遠地拓展,無數的國族、城邦與民族被剝奪了自由之權、被套上奴役之軛,還有許多內外成就的大事,以不可克服的堅穩奠定了這民族的名聲與威嚴。」
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- Si verum locuntur historiae neque ullas inserunt rerum conscriptionibus falsitates, adlatum ex Phrygia nihil quid aliud scribitur missum rege ab Attalo, nisi lapis quidam non magnus, ferri manu hominis sine ulla inpressione qui posset, coloris furvi atque atri, angellis prominentibus inaequalis, et quem omnes hodie ipso illo videmus in signo oris loco positum, indolatum et asperum et simulacro faciem minus expressam simulatione praebentem. 50 [or 47].1. Quid ergo dicemus? Hannibalem illum Poenum, hostem potentem ac validum, sub quo anceps et dubia res Romana contremuit et magnitudo trepidavit, lapis ea Italia depulit, lapis fregit, lapis fugacem ac timidum suique esse dissimilem fecit? 2.
If the histories speak the truth and insert no falsehoods into their records, nothing else is written to have been brought over from Phrygia, sent by King Attalus, except a certain stone, not large, such as could be carried by a man's hand without any strain, of a swarthy and black color, uneven with little projecting corners, and which we all see today set in the very image in the place of the face, unwrought and rough, presenting by its imitation a face less than fully expressed. What then shall we say? Did a stone drive that Carthaginian Hannibal, a powerful and mighty enemy, under whom the doubtful and uncertain fortune of Rome trembled and her greatness quaked, out of Italy? did a stone break him? did a stone make him fugitive and timid and unlike himself?
若歷史所言為真、並未在其記錄中摻入任何虛謊,那麼據載從弗里吉亞由阿塔羅斯王送來的,除了某塊並不大的石頭之外,別無他物;那石頭小到人手可以毫不費力地搬動,色澤黝黑,表面因突出的小稜角而凹凸不平,就是我們今日眾人所見、嵌在那神像臉部位置上的那一塊——未經雕琢、粗糙不平,以其仿製呈現一張並不完全成形的面容。那麼我們該說什麼呢?難道是一塊石頭把那迦太基人漢尼拔——那強大有力的敵人,羅馬在他面前命運搖擺不定、其偉大為之震顫——逐出了義大利?是石頭挫敗了他?是石頭使他逃亡、膽怯、判若兩人?
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Et quod rursus exsilivit ad imperii columen et regium principatum, nihil consiliis actum est, nihil hominum viribus, nec ad reditum sublimitatis antiquae tot tantisque ab ducibus quicquam est scientia militari aut rerum experientia conlatum? 3. Lapis aliis vires, aliis roboris infirmitatem dedit, hos secundis praecipitavit ab rebus, aliorum extulit stratas desperatione fortunas? Et quis hominum credet terra sumptum lapidem, sensu agitabilem nullo, fuliginei coloris atque atri, parvi corporis , deum fuisse matrema aut qui rursus accipiat - hoc enim solum restat - numinis alicuius habitasse | f. 161b | vim silicis fragmentis ignis more subiectam venisque in eius abstrusam? 4.
And that Rome sprang up again to the summit of empire and to royal supremacy—was nothing accomplished by counsels, nothing by human strength, and did knowledge of warfare or experience of affairs contribute nothing toward the return of her ancient sublimity through so many and so great leaders? Did a stone give strength to some, and weakness of vigor to others; did it cast down these from prosperous fortunes, and raise up the ruined fortunes of others from despair? And who among men will believe that a stone taken from the earth, moved by no sense, of a sooty and black color, of small body, was the mother of the gods, or (for this alone remains) that the power of some divinity, subjected like fire and hidden in the veins of the flint, dwelt in the fragments of the stone?
而羅馬竟又重新崛起至帝國之巔、達於王者的至尊——難道這絲毫不出於謀略、絲毫不出於人的力量,難道那麼多如此偉大的統帥所憑的軍事知識或事務經驗,對她昔日崇高的恢復竟毫無貢獻?難道是一塊石頭賜給某些人力量、給另一些人以衰弱,把這些人從順境中拋下,又把另一些人絕望淪落的命運扶起?世人中有誰會相信,一塊取自地下、毫無感覺、色澤煙黑、體積微小的石頭,竟是眾神之母?或者(因為只剩這一種可能)某位神明之力,如火一般潛伏、隱藏在燧石的紋脈中,竟寓居於這石塊的碎片之內?
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"Et unde parta victoria est, si Pessinuntio lapidi nullum inerat numen?". - "Sedulitate possumus dicere ac virtute pugnantium, usu tempore consilio ratione, fato etiam possumus et reciproca varietate fortunae". 5. Sed si auxilio lapidis res facta est melior et felix reciperata victoria est, ubinam Mater Phrygia tempore illo fuit, cum tot tantis que exercitibus caesis inclinata est res summa et ad ultimae labis periculum venit? Cur non minaci forti se obtulit? cur impetus tantos belli non prius fregit ac reppulit quam immanes ac * inciderent plagae, quibus omnis effunderetur sanguis et exhaustis rueret vita ipsa paene vitalibus? 6.
"And whence came the victory won, if no divinity was in the Pessinuntine stone?" "We can attribute it to the diligence and valor of the fighters, to practice, to timing, to counsel, to reason; we can attribute it even to fate and to the alternating vicissitude of fortune." But if the affair was made better by the aid of the stone and victory happily regained, where then was the Phrygian Mother at that time, when, with so many and such great armies slaughtered, the highest fortune was overthrown and came to the peril of utter ruin? Why did she not offer herself, brave against the menacing foe? why did she not break and repel the mighty assaults of war before those monstrous blows fell, by which all the blood was poured out and, the vital parts almost drained, life itself collapsed?
「若佩西努斯的石頭中並無神明,那勝利又從何而來?」「我們可以歸功於戰士的勤勉與勇武,歸於操練、時機、謀略、理性;我們甚至可以歸於命運、歸於時運的交替變幻。」但若戰局是靠石頭之助而好轉、勝利得以幸而重獲,那麼在那時——當如此眾多、如此龐大的軍隊被殺、最高的命運被傾覆、瀕臨徹底毀滅之危時——弗里吉亞之母又在哪裡呢?她為何不挺身而出,勇敢地抵禦那威脅逼近的敵人?她為何不在那可怕的打擊落下之前——那使全部鮮血傾流、生機幾近枯竭而生命本身崩潰的打擊——就先打破並擊退戰爭那樣猛烈的攻勢呢?
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"Advecta enim nondum nec favorem fuerat ut comrmodaret rogata". - Esto: sed bonus auxiliator numquam rogari se poscit spontanea semper opitulatione subveniens. "Hostem pellere ac fugare non potuit multo adhuc mari terrisque ab Italia discreta". - Sed deo, si deus est, longum nihil omnino est, cui punctum terra est et sub nutu omnia constituta. 51 [or 48].1. Sed fuerit praesens, ut exposcitis credi, illo ipso numen in lapide: - et mortalium quisquam est, quamvis ille sit credulus et facillimas aures quibuslibet fictionibus praebeat, qui eam iudicet fuisse aut tempore illo deam aut hodie dici appellarique debere, quae modo haec appetat, modo illa deposcat, suos deserat fastidiatque | f.
"For she had not yet been brought over, nor had it come to pass that, being asked, she should lend her favor." So be it: but a good helper never demands to be asked, coming to aid always with spontaneous assistance. "She could not drive off and put the enemy to flight, being still separated from Italy by much sea and land." But to a god, if he is a god, nothing at all is far, for whom the earth is a point and all things are established under his nod. But suppose the divinity was present, as you demand should be believed, in that very stone: is there any of mortals—however credulous he be, and however readily he lends his ears to any fictions whatever—who would judge that she was a goddess at that time, or ought today to be called and named such, who now seeks these things, now demands those, deserts and spurns her own worshippers,
「因為當時她尚未被帶來,也還未曾發生她受請求而施惠之事。」姑且如此:但一位良善的助佑者從不要求先受請求,總是以自發的援手前來相助。「她還被遼闊的海陸與義大利隔開,無法驅逐並擊退敵人。」但對神——若他是神——則沒有什麼是遙遠的,因為在他看來大地不過一點,萬物都安置在他的頷首之下。但就算那神明真如你們所求要人相信的那樣臨在於那石頭之中:世人中可有誰——縱使他何等輕信、何等輕易地對任何虛構之說側耳傾聽——會判定她在那時曾是女神,或今日該被稱作、名為女神呢?——她時而貪求這些、時而索要那些,離棄並嫌棄自己的敬拜者,
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162 | cultores, provinciis ab humilioribus migret, potentioribus populis ditioribusque se iungat? 2. Verum bellicas res amet interque esse desideret pugnis caedibus mortalitatibus et cruori.
migrates from humbler provinces, and joins herself to more powerful and wealthier peoples? Indeed, she loves the affairs of war, and desires to be amid combats, slaughters, deaths, and gore.
從較卑微的行省遷離,去依附更強大、更富庶的民族?她甚至喜愛戰爭之事,渴望置身於廝殺、屠戮、死亡與血腥之中。
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Si deorum est proprium, si modo sunt veri et quos deceat nuncupari vi vocis istius et potentia nominis, nihil facere malitiose, nihil iniuste hominibusque se cunctis una et parili gratia sine ulla inclinatione praebere, generis eam fuisse divini quisquamne hominum credat aut habuisse aequitatem diis dignam, quae humanis sese discordiis inserens maiorum opes fregit, aliis se praebuit exhibuitque fautricem, libertatem his abstulit, alios ad columen dominationis erexit, quae ut una civitas emineret in humani generis perniciem nata, orbem subiugavit innoxium?
If it is the peculiar property of the gods—provided they are truly gods and such as it befits to be named by the force of that word and the power of the name—to do nothing maliciously, nothing unjustly, and to show themselves to all men with one and equal grace without any partiality, would any of men believe that she was of divine kind or possessed an equity worthy of gods, who, thrusting herself into human discords, broke the power of the greater, offered and showed herself a patroness to some, took liberty from these, raised others to the summit of domination, who, born for the ruin of the human race that a single city might tower above the rest, subjugated the innocent world?
倘若神明所特有的——只要他們是真神,是配得以那字眼之力、那名號之能被稱作神者——乃是不行任何惡意之事、不行任何不義之事,並向眾人以同一而平等的恩惠、毫不偏袒地施惠,那麼世人中可有誰會相信她屬於神類、或具有配得神明的公道呢?——她竟插身於人間的紛爭,打破強者的力量,向一些人自居為庇護者、施予恩惠,卻奪去另一些人的自由,把別人抬舉至統治的巔峰;她既為人類的毀滅而生,好使一座城邦凌駕於眾人之上,竟征服了無辜的世界。
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