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Augustine of Hippo

Letters & Polemics (CSEL) 15 part 23/37

Latin original · 38 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss · long chapter, split into parts; this part covers 15:837–15:874 (1391 verses in all)

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15:837
in quibus omitto de albo et nigro aliquid dicere, aut si ullum momentum boni et mali est in coloribus, ut album dicant ad deum pertinere, nigrum autem ad hylen. cum omnia genera uolati- ' lium hylen creasse perhibeant, si album colorem plumis eorum deus aspersit, ubi latebant corui, quando cygni candore perfusi sunt? item de calido et frigido deputare non opus est; utrumque enim temperanter adhibitum salubre, intemperanter autem perniciosum est. cetera uideamus. bonum et malum, quod in primis forte ponere debuit in iisdem contrariis. ita uidetur posuisse, ut tamquam generalia uellet intellegi, scilicet ut ad bonum pertineat sanitas, copia, album.
among which I forbear to say anything of white and black, or whether there is any weight of good and evil in colors, that they should say white pertains to God, but black to hyle. Since they maintain that hyle created all kinds of flying things, if God sprinkled the white color upon their feathers, where were the crows hidden when the swans were suffused with whiteness? Likewise concerning hot and cold there is no need to reckon; for each, applied temperately, is wholesome, but applied intemperately, is destructive. Let us look at the rest. Good and evil, which perhaps he ought to have placed first among these same contraries. So he seems to have placed them, wishing them to be understood as general, namely, so that to the good pertain health, abundance, white,
在其中我且不論白與黑,也不論顏色中是否有任何善惡的分量,以致他們說白屬於神,而黑屬於物質(hyle)。既然他們主張物質造了各類飛禽,那麼若是神把白色灑在牠們的羽毛上,那麼當天鵝披上白潔之時,烏鴉又藏在何處呢?同樣,論到熱與冷也不必計較;因為二者若有節制地施用便是有益的,若無節制地施用便是有害的。我們再看其餘的。善與惡,或許他本該把它們列在這些相對之物的首位。他似乎正是這樣安排的,願人把它們理解為總綱,也就是說,使健康、豐足、白、
15:838
calidum, dulce, ad malum autem infirmitas., egestas, nigrum, frigidum. amarum, quam inperite et inconsiderate. uideat qui potuerit. ego autem ne homini calumniari puter, nihil obicio de albo et nigro, calido et frigido, de dulci et amaro et sanitatem atque infirmitatem praescribam. si enim album et dulce duo bona sunt, nigrum autem et amarum duo mala, quomodo plurima uua omnisque oliua nigrescendo dulcescit, id est mali amplius habendo fit melior? item si duo bona sunt calor et sanitas, duo uero mala frigus et infirmitas, cur calescendo corpora aegrescunt r an forte sana febriunt?
hot, sweet pertain to the good, but to the evil sickness, want, black, cold, bitter—how unskillfully and inconsiderately, let him see who can. But I, lest I be thought to cavil against the man, object nothing about white and black, hot and cold, sweet and bitter, and I will pass over health and sickness. For if white and sweet are two goods, but black and bitter two evils, how is it that very many a grape and every olive, by growing black, grows sweet—that is, by having more of evil it becomes better? Likewise, if heat and health are two goods, but cold and sickness two evils, why do bodies grow sick by growing hot? Or do the healthy perhaps take fever?
熱、甜屬於善,而使疾病、匱乏、黑、冷、苦屬於惡——這是何等不精明、何等欠考慮,讓能看清的人自己去看。但我,免得被認為是在向這人挑剔,關於白與黑、熱與冷、甜與苦,我一概不加反駁,也把健康與疾病略過。因為若白與甜是兩樣善,而黑與苦是兩樣惡,那麼許多葡萄和每一顆橄欖,怎麼會愈變黑就愈變甜——也就是說,愈多有惡反而愈變好呢?同樣,若熱與健康是兩樣善,而冷與疾病是兩樣惡,那麼身體為何愈熱就愈生病呢?難道健康的人竟因此發燒麼?
15:839
non ergo haec obicio, quae forte non cautus aut pro quibuslibet contrariis potius quam pro bonis et malis commemorauit, praesertim quia ignem gentis tenebrarum numquam frigidum fuisse dixerunt, sed calorem eius utique malum. Uerum ut ista omittamus, illa uideamus, quae ita commemorauit bona in his contrariis, ut nolit inde dubitari, sanitatem, copiam, dulcedinem.
I do not, then, object these things, which perhaps he mentioned incautiously, or rather as instances of contraries of any sort than of good and evil, especially since they said that the fire of the race of darkness was never cold, but that its heat was in any case evil. But to leave these aside, let us look at those which he thus mentioned as goods among these contraries, so that he would not have it doubted therein: health, abundance, sweetness.
因此,這些或許是他不謹慎地提及的,或不如說是拿來作任意一類相對之物的例子,而非作善與惡的例子——尤其因為他們說黑暗族類的火從不曾是冷的,只是它的熱無論如何都是惡的——這些我便不加反駁。然而,把這些撇開,讓我們來看他所如此提及、當作這些相對之物中的善、以致不容人在此有所懷疑的那些:健康、豐足、甘甜。
15:840
itane in illa gente non erat sanitas corporum, in qua et nasci et crescere, gignere et ita perdurare potuerunt illa animalia, ut quibusdam eorum grauidis, sicut desipiunt, captis et in caelo conligatis nec saltem pleni temporis, sed abortiui fetus electam excelso in terram cadentes et uiuere potuerint et crescere et ista carnium, quae nunc sunt innumerabilia, genera propagare ?
Was there, then, in that race no health of bodies, in which those animals were able both to be born and to grow, to beget and so to endure—so that even when some of them were pregnant (as they dote in their folly), being captured and bound up in heaven, and their offspring, not even of full term but abortive, falling from on high onto the chosen earth, were able both to live and to grow and to propagate these kinds of flesh, which are now innumerable?
那麼,難道在那族類中就沒有身體的健康嗎?在其中那些動物既能出生又能生長,能生育並如此長存——以致(照他們愚妄的夢囈)當其中有些懷了胎,被擄去綁在天上,牠們的後裔連足月都不到,乃是早產的,從高處墜落到那被揀選的地上,卻既能存活、又能生長,並繁衍出這些如今數不勝數的肉身種類?
15:841
aut copia ibi non erat, ubi arbores non tantum in aquis et uentis, sed etiam in igni et fumo et nasci potuerunt et tanta fecunditate ditari, ut ex earum fructibus sui cuiusque generis animalia gignerentur et earum arborum feracitate nutrita atque pasta conseruarentur, quorum saginae laetitiam prolis quoque fecunditas testaretur, maxime ubi nullus labor agriculturae nec intemperies esset aestatis et hiemis; neque enim sol ibi circuibat, ut alternantibus temporibus anni transcurrerent ? proinde perpetua fertilitas erat arborum, quibus elementum et alimentum sui generis, -sicut gignendis adfuerat, ita fetandis perpetuo subpetebat et fructus numquum deesse faciebat;
Or was there no abundance there, where trees were able to be born not only in waters and winds, but even in fire and smoke, and to be enriched with such great fecundity, that from their fruits animals each of its own kind were begotten, and were preserved, nourished and fed by the fruitfulness of those trees—whose fatness the fecundity of offspring also would attest by their gladness—especially where there was no labor of agriculture, nor any inclemency of summer and winter? For neither did the sun there go round, so that the seasons of the year should run their course in alternation. Accordingly there was a perpetual fertility of the trees, to which the element and the nourishment of their own kind, as it had been present for begetting, so was ever at hand for their fruit-bearing, and made the fruit never to be lacking;
再者,難道那裡就沒有豐足嗎?在那裡樹木不但能在水與風中生長,甚至能在火與煙中生長,並得如此大的繁茂,以致從它們的果實中生出各從其類的動物,牠們並靠那些樹木的多產得著滋養、餵飼而存活——牠們的肥壯又藉後裔的繁衍以其歡欣為證——尤其在那沒有耕作勞苦、也沒有寒暑不調之處?因為那裡太陽並不運轉,以致一年四季更替流轉。因此樹木有永久的多產,使它們同類的元素與養分,既曾為生育而備妥,也就永遠為結果而供應,使果子永不缺乏;
15:842
sicut uidemus arbores citriorum toto anno flores et fructus parere, si iugiter inrigentur. magna ergo illic copia et eius habendae magna securitas; neque enim uel grando timebatur, ubi non erant luminis exactores, quos tonitrua commouere fabulamini. Dulces autem ac suaues si non haberent cibos suos. numquam eos adpeterent, numquam eis corpora uegetarent. ita enim se res habet, ut pro cuiusque corporis congruentia uel delectet esca uel offendat. si delectat, dulcis aut suauis dicitur; si autem offendit, amara siue aspera siue aliqua insuauitate respuenda. nonne ipsi nos homines ita sumus. ut plerumque alter adpetat alimentum, quod alter exhorreat.
just as we see citron trees bear flowers and fruit the whole year long, if they are continually watered. Great, then, was the abundance there, and great the security of possessing it; for not even hail was feared, where there were no exactors of light, whom you fable that thunders set in motion. But sweet and pleasant foods—if they did not have their own, they would never crave them, nor would their bodies be invigorated by them. For so the matter stands, that according to the suitability of each body food either delights or offends. If it delights, it is called sweet or pleasant; but if it offends, bitter or harsh, or to be rejected by some unpleasantness. Are not we men ourselves so, that very often the one craves the food which the other abhors?
正如我們看見香櫞樹若不斷澆灌,就終年開花結果。可見那裡的豐足是大的,擁有它的穩妥也是大的;因為連冰雹都無可懼,那裡沒有你們寓言中說由雷聲驅動的光之勒索者。然而甜美可口的食物——牠們若沒有屬於自己的食物,就永不會渴求它,牠們的身體也不會因之得力。事情本是如此:食物按各個身體的相宜與否,或使之愉悅,或使之厭惡。若使之愉悅,就稱為甜或可口;若使之厭惡,就稱為苦、澀,或因某種不快而當拒絕的。難道我們人自己不也是如此,以致常常一人渴求的食物正是另一人所厭惡的麼?
15:843
siue pro temperatione naturae siue pro usu consuetudinis siue pro adfectione ualetudinis? quanto magis longe diuersi generis corpora bestiarum possunt illud habere iucundum. quod nobis amarum est! an aliter caprae ad rodendum suspenderentur oleastrum? nam sicut non nulli morbo hominum mel amarum est, ita illi naturae pecoris suauis oleaster. sic insinuatur prudentibus rerum examinatoribus ordo quid ualeat, cum scilicet sua cuique adhibentur atque redduntur, quantumque hoc bonum sit ab imis usque ad summa, a corporalibus usque ad spiritalia.
whether according to the temperament of nature, or according to the use of habit, or according to the disposition of health? How much more can bodies of beasts of a kind far different find that pleasant which to us is bitter! Or would goats otherwise be strung up to gnaw the wild olive? For just as to some by disease of men honey is bitter, so to that nature of the flock the wild olive is sweet. Thus there is insinuated to prudent examiners of things the order of what a thing avails, when, namely, its own things are applied and rendered to each, and how great a good this is, from the lowest even to the highest, from things bodily even to things spiritual.
無論是按本性的體質,或按習慣的養成,或按健康的狀況?何況那種類大不相同的野獸身體,更能覺得我們以為苦的東西是可口的呢!否則山羊為何要被吊起來啃齧野橄欖?因為正如對某些患病的人蜂蜜是苦的,照樣對那牲畜的本性野橄欖卻是甘甜的。這樣,事物的次序就顯示給那些明智審察事物的人,叫他們知道當各物按各自相宜而施用、賜給各類時,其功用有何等大的價值,並且這是何等大的善,從至卑直到至高,從肉身之物直到屬靈之物。
15:844
itaque in gente tenebrarum cum animal alicuius elementi eo uescebatur cibo, qui nascebatur in eius elemento, procul dubio suauitatem ipsa congruentia faciebat: si autem incidisset in alterius elementi cibum, ipsa incongruentia faceret offensionem sensui gustantis: quae offensio uel amaritudo uel asperitas uel insuauitas uel quodlibet aliud, aut si ita nimium est, ut aliena ui conpagem corporis concordiamque disrumpat ac sic interimat aut uires auferat, etiam uenenum uocatur non nisi per incongruentiam, quod alteri generi per congruentiam cibus est: sicut panem, qui cotidiana esca nostra est, si accipiter sumat, extinguitur, et nos, si helleborum, quo pecora pleraque uescuntur;
And so in the race of darkness, when an animal of some element fed on that food which was born in its own element, without doubt the very suitability produced pleasantness; but if it chanced upon food of another element, the very unsuitability would produce an offense to the sense of the taster—which offense, whether bitterness or harshness or unpleasantness or anything else whatever, or, if it is so excessive that by an alien force it breaks apart the frame and concord of the body and thus destroys it or takes away its strength, is even called poison—and this only through unsuitability, since to another kind through suitability it is food: just as bread, which is our daily fare, if a hawk take it, it is killed; and we, if hellebore, on which very many cattle feed;
這樣,在黑暗族類中,當某一元素的動物吃那生於自己元素中的食物時,那相宜本身無疑就產生了適口;但若牠碰上另一元素的食物,那不相宜本身就會對品嚐者的感官產生一種厭惡——這厭惡,無論是苦、是澀、是不快,或別的什麼,或者,若它過於強烈,以致藉一種外來之力破壞身體的架構與協調,因而毀滅它或奪去它的力量,就連毒藥都稱得上——而這只是藉著不相宜,因為藉著相宜,它對另一類卻是食物:正如麵包乃是我們每日的食物,鷹若吃了就會死;我們若吃了藜蘆(許多牲畜卻以此為食),也會如此;
15:845
cuius tamen herbae adhibendae quidam modus etiam medicamentum est. quod si sciret aut consideraret Faustus, non utique uenenum et antidotum pro exemplo duarum naturarum mali et boni poneret, tamquam deus sit antidotum et hyle uenenum, cum eadem res eademque natura nunc congruenter, nunc incongruenter sumpta siue adhibita uel prosit uel noceat. itaque secundum eorum fabulam potest dici deus eorum fuisse uenenum genti tenebrarum, cuius corpora tam firma ita corrupit, ut infirmissima redderet; sed quia et lux ipsa capta, obpressa, corrupta est, inuicem sibi uenenum fuerunt.
yet of this herb, when applied in a certain measure, it is even a medicine. And if Faustus knew or considered this, he would certainly not set poison and antidote as an example of the two natures of evil and good—as though God were the antidote and hyle the poison—since the same thing and the same nature, taken or applied now suitably, now unsuitably, either profits or harms. And so, according to their fable, their god could be said to have been poison to the race of darkness, whose bodies, so firm, he so corrupted that he rendered them most feeble; but because the light itself was captured, oppressed, and corrupted, they were poison to each other in turn.
然而這種草若按某種分量施用,甚至是一味藥。浮士德若知道或思量這點,就斷不會拿毒藥與解藥作惡與善兩種本性的例子——彷彿神是解藥而物質(hyle)是毒藥——既然同一件事物、同一種本性,如今相宜地、如今不相宜地取用或施用,或有益或有害。這樣,照他們的寓言,可以說他們的神對黑暗族類乃是毒藥,他把那族類原本強健的身體敗壞到如此地步,以致變得極其孱弱;但因那光本身也被擄、被壓、被敗壞了,他們就彼此互為毒藥了。
15:846
Cur non ergo haec aut duo bona dicitis aut duo mala, uel magis et duo bona et duo mala, duo bona apud se, duo mala in alterutrum? postea, si opus fuerit, quaeremus, quid horum sit melius aut peius . interim quia duo bona erant apud se, ita consideratur. regnabat deus in terra sua, regnabat et hyle in sua; sanitas regnantium et ibi et hic; copia fructuum et ibi et hic; fecunditas prolis utrobique; suauitas propriarum uoluptatum apud utrosque. sed illa gens, inquiunt, excepto eo, quod uicinae luci mala erat, et apud se ipsam mala erat. interim bona eius multa iam dixi; si et uos mala eius potueritis ostendere, erunt duo regna bona, sed illud melius, ubi nullum erat malum .
Why then do you not say these are either two goods or two evils, or rather both two goods and two evils—two goods in themselves, two evils in relation to each other? Afterward, if there be need, we shall inquire which of these is better or worse. Meanwhile, since they were two goods in themselves, it is thus considered: God reigned in his own land, hyle reigned in its; the health of the reigning ones both there and here; the abundance of fruits both there and here; the fecundity of offspring on both sides; the sweetness of their own pleasures among both. But that race, they say, apart from the fact that it was evil to the neighboring light, was evil also in itself. Meanwhile I have already told many of its goods; if you too can show its evils, there will be two good kingdoms, but that one the better, where there was no evil.
那麼你們為何不說這是兩樣善,或兩樣惡,或不如說既是兩樣善又是兩樣惡——就各自而言是兩樣善,就彼此相對而言是兩樣惡呢?此後,若有需要,我們再查究這二者哪一樣較好或較壞。目前,既然就各自而言是兩樣善,就這樣來看:神在自己的地上作王,物質(hyle)在自己的地上作王;作王者的健康在那裡在這裡都有;果子的豐足在那裡在這裡都有;後裔的繁衍在兩邊都有;各自快樂的甘甜在兩者中都有。他們卻說,那族類除了對鄰近的光是惡的以外,就其自身也是惡的。目前我已述說了它許多的善;你們若也能指出它的惡,那就有兩個善的國度,只是那沒有惡的國度較好。
15:847
quaenam ergo huius mala dicitis fuisse ? uastabant se, inquit, inuicem laedebant, occidebant, absumebant. si ad hoc solum ibi uacaretur, quomodo ibi tanta agmina gignerentur, nutrirentur, perficerentur ? erat ibi ergo et quies et pax. uerumtamen fateamur illud fuisse melius regnum, ubi nulla discordia; duo tamen bona ista multo adcommodatius dixerim quam unum bonum et alterum malum, ut illud sit melius, ubi nec singuli sibimet ipsis nocebant nec inuicem; hoc autem inferius bonum, ubi quamuis inuicem aduersarentur, unumquodque tamen animal suam salutem, incolumitatem naturamque tuebatur.
What evils, then, do you say were of this race? They laid one another waste, he says, they wounded one another, killed, consumed. If there had been leisure there for this alone, how could so great throngs be begotten, nourished, brought to perfection there? There was, therefore, also there both rest and peace. Yet let us confess that that was the better kingdom, where there was no discord; but I would call these two goods much more fittingly than the one good and the other evil, so that that be better where neither did individuals harm their own selves nor one another, but this a lower good, where, although they opposed one another, yet each single animal guarded its own safety, integrity, and nature.
那麼你們說這族類有哪些惡呢?他說:牠們彼此毀壞、彼此傷害、彼此殘殺、彼此吞噬。若那裡只忙於這事,那麼如此眾多的群類怎能在那裡得以生育、養育、長成呢?可見那裡也有安息與平安。然而讓我們承認,那沒有紛爭的國度是較好的;但我更貼切地稱這二者為兩樣善,而非稱一樣為善、另一樣為惡,以致那個個體既不自傷、也不彼此相害之處為較好,而此個體雖彼此相敵、每一隻動物卻仍保守自己的安全、完整與本性之處為較低之善。
15:848
uerumtamen deo uestro ille saltem princeps tenebrarum non ita longo interuallo conparari potest, cui nemo resistebat, cui regnanti cuncta seruierunt. quem contionantem cuncta secuta sunt; quod sine magna pace atque concordia fieri non posset. ibi enim sunt regna felicia, ubi omnium pleno consensu regibus oboeditur. huc accedit, quia illi principi non tantum sui generis, id est bipedes, quos parentes hominum dicitis, sed etiam cuncta animalium ceterorum genera subdita erant et ad nutum eius conuertebantur faciendo, quod iussisset, credendo, quod suasisset. haec dicentes usque adeo putatis surda hominum corda, ut expectent a uobis deum alterum nominari, quem uident plane aperteque describi.
Nevertheless, that prince of darkness at least can be compared to your god at no very great distance, since no one resisted him, and all things served him as he reigned; and when he made speeches all things followed him—which could not come to pass without great peace and concord. For there are the happy kingdoms, where with the full consent of all the kings are obeyed. To this is added that to that prince there were subject not only those of his own kind, that is, the bipeds whom you call the parents of men, but even all the kinds of the other animals, and they were turned at his nod, doing what he commanded, believing what he persuaded. Saying these things, do you suppose the hearts of men so deaf that they should expect another god to be named by you, whom they see plainly and openly described?
然而那黑暗之君至少可與你們的神相比,相差不遠,因為無人抵擋他,凡物都在他作王時服事他;當他演說時,凡物都跟從他——這若沒有極大的平安與協調就不能成就。因為快樂的國度就在那裡,那裡眾人全然同心,君王得人順服。此外還要加上:不但他同類的,就是你們稱為人類始祖的兩足者服在那君之下,連其餘一切動物的種類也都服他,隨他點頭而轉動,行他所吩咐的,信他所勸的。你們說這些話,難道以為人心竟如此塞聾,以致要盼望你們去給另一位神起名,而他們分明公開地看見這位神已被描述出來了嗎?
15:849
si enim principis huius uires hoc poterant, magna potentia; si honor, magna claritas: si amor, magna concordia; si timor, magna disciplina. in his omnibus bonis si erant aliqua mala, num ideo iam mali natura dicenda est nisi ab eis, qui nesciunt, quid loquantur? porro, si propterea mali naturam putatis. quia non solum in alteram naturam mala erat, sed etiam in se ipsa habebat malum, nullumne malum esse arbitramini duram necessitatem. quam patiebatur deus uester ante commixtionem naturae contrariae, ut cum ea bellare et in eius fauces sic obprimenda membra sua mittere cogeretur, ut non posset tota purgari? ecce erat et in ipsa magnum malum, antequam ei misceretur. quod solum dicitis malum.
For if the strength of this prince could do this, it was great power; if his honor, great renown; if love, great concord; if fear, great discipline. If among all these goods there were any evils, is it therefore now to be called an evil nature, except by those who know not what they say? Furthermore, if you think its nature evil for this reason, that it was not only evil toward the other nature, but even had evil in itself, do you deem no evil to be the hard necessity which your god suffered before the commingling of the contrary nature—so that he was compelled to war with it and to send his own members into its jaws, to be so oppressed that it could not be wholly purged? Behold, there was even in itself a great evil, before it was mingled with it—which alone you call evil.
因為若這君的力量能成就此事,那便是大能;若是他的尊榮,便是大名;若是愛,便是大協調;若是懼怕,便是大約束。在這一切善中若有任何惡,難道就要因此稱之為惡的本性嗎?除非是那些不知所云的人才會如此。再者,你們若因這緣故認為它的本性是惡的,就是它不但對另一本性是惡的,甚至自身也含有惡——那麼你們神在與相反本性混合之先所受的那嚴酷的必需,你們豈不以為是一種惡嗎?以致他被迫與那本性爭戰,把自己的肢體送入它的口中,被壓制到不能完全潔淨的地步?看哪,在它與那本性混合之先,它自身裡面就有大惡了——而這惡是你們唯一稱為惡的。
15:850
aut enim laedi et corrumpi non poterat a gente tenebrarum et propria stultitia patiebatur illam necessitatem, aut, si poterat corrumpi eius substantia, non colitis deum incorruptibilem, qualem apostolus praedicat. quid ergo? et ipsa corruptibilitas, qua quidem nondum corrumpebatur illa natura, sed tamen ab alia corrumpi poterat, non uobis in deo uestro uidetur malum? Illud etiam quis non uideat, quod aut praescientia ibi non eratubi uestrum est iam cogitare, utrum nullum uitium dei sit carere praescientia et quid inmineat omnino nescireaut, si erat ibi praescientia, securitas ibi esse non poterat. sed aeternus timor; et hoc quantum malum sit, certe agnoscitis.
For either it could not be harmed and corrupted by the race of darkness, and by its own folly suffered that necessity; or, if its substance could be corrupted, you do not worship an incorruptible God, such as the Apostle proclaims. What then? Does not that very corruptibility—by which indeed that nature was not yet being corrupted, but nevertheless could be corrupted by another—seem to you an evil in your god? This too, who would not see: that either there was no foreknowledge there—where it is now for you to consider whether it be no defect of God to lack foreknowledge and to be wholly ignorant of what threatens—or, if there was foreknowledge there, there could be no security there, but eternal fear; and how great an evil this is, you certainly acknowledge.
因為它若不能被黑暗族類傷害敗壞,那它就是憑自己的愚妄才承受那必需;或者,它的本體若能被敗壞,你們所敬拜的就不是使徒所宣告的那不朽的神。那麼怎樣呢?那可朽壞性本身——那本性固然尚未被敗壞,卻能被別的敗壞——豈不在你們的神身上顯為一種惡嗎?這事誰又看不出來:或者那裡沒有預知——如今你們可以思量,缺乏預知、全然不知有何危險臨近,豈不是神的缺陷嗎——或者,那裡若有預知,那裡就不能有穩妥,只有永久的懼怕;這是何等大的惡,你們必定承認。
15:851
an non timebat, ne iam iamque adueniret tempus, quo membra eius ita uastarentur et inquinarentur in illo proelio. ut uix cum tanto labore, nec tamen tota liberarentur atque mundarentur? sed si ad ipsum hoc non pertinebat, quod quidem cernitis quam dure dicatur, certe ipsa membra eius, quae hic tanta mala passura erant, nempe metuebant. an hoc futurum ipsa nesciebant? ergo qualicumque parti substantiae dei uestri defuit utique praescientia. numerate mala in summo uestro bono. an ideo non timebant, quia suam consecuturam liberationem ac triumphum pariter praeuidebant? certe uel pro sociis timebant, quos aeternis in illo globo uinculis a suo regno nouerant alienandos.
Or did it not fear lest at any moment the time should come when its members would be so laid waste and defiled in that battle, that scarcely with such great labor, and yet not wholly, would they be freed and cleansed? But if this did not pertain to himself—which indeed you see how harshly it is said—certainly his very members, which here were about to suffer such great evils, surely feared. Or did they not know this was to come? Then to some portion of the substance of your god foreknowledge was assuredly lacking. Number the evils in your highest good. Or did they for this reason not fear, because they equally foresaw that their liberation and triumph would follow? Certainly they feared at least for their fellows, whom they knew would be alienated from their own kingdom by eternal chains in that lump.
或者它不懼怕嗎——恐怕轉眼之間那時候就臨到,其肢體在那場爭戰中要被毀壞污穢到如此地步,以致縱使費了那麼大的功夫,仍不能完全得釋放、得潔淨?但這事若與他自己無關——你們也看出這話說得何等嚴酷——那麼在此要受如此大惡的他那些肢體,總是懼怕的。難道牠們不知這事將要臨到嗎?那麼你們神本體的某一部分無疑就缺了預知。數算你們至高之善中的諸惡吧。或者牠們因這緣故不懼怕,是因牠們同樣預見自己的得釋與凱旋將要隨之而來?至少牠們總是為同伴懼怕的,因牠們知道這些同伴要被永遠的鎖鏈捆在那團塊裡,與自己的國度隔絕。
15:852
An ibi caritas non erat, ut nulla esset fraterna conpassio pro his utique, quorum peccato nullo praecedente inpendebant aeterna subplicia? quid? illae ipsae animae in globo ligandae nonne et ipsae membra dei uestri erant? nonne unum genus et una substantia est? ipsae saltem praescientes futurum sempiternum uinculum suum nempe timebant. nempe maerebant. aut si ipsae hoc futurum nesciebant, pars dei uestri prouida erat, pars inprouida . quomodo ergo una eademque substantia? cum ergo tanta mala et ibi fuerint. antequam esset alieni mali commixtio, quid de illo tamquam puro et simplici et summo bono gloriamini ?
Or was there no charity there, so that there would be no brotherly compassion for those very ones who, with no preceding sin of their own, were incurring eternal punishments? What then? Were not those very souls, to be bound in the lump, themselves also members of your god? Is it not one kind and one substance? They at least, foreknowing their everlasting bond to come, surely feared, surely grieved. Or, if they did not know this was to come, one part of your god was provident, another improvident. How then is it one and the same substance? Since, then, such great evils were there too, before there was any commingling of alien evil, why do you glory in that as a pure and simple and supreme good?
或者那裡沒有愛嗎,以致對那些自己並無先前罪過、卻要承受永刑的,竟毫無弟兄的憐憫?那麼怎樣呢?那些要被捆在團塊裡的靈魂,牠們自己豈不也是你們神的肢體嗎?豈不是同一種類、同一本體嗎?牠們既預知自己將要永遠被捆綁,至少總是懼怕、總是憂傷的。或者,牠們若不知這事將臨,那麼你們的神一部分有先見,一部分無先見。如此,怎能是同一本體呢?既然那裡在還沒有任何外來之惡的混合之先,就已有這樣大的諸惡,你們為何還誇耀它是純潔、單純、至高的善呢?
15:853
ergo etiam apud semet ipsas istas duas naturas aut duo bona aut duo mala fateri cogimini. concedimus uobis, si duo mala dixeritis, ut quod uolueritis horum peius dicatis; si autem duo bona. quodlibet horum dicite melius, erit postea diligentior consideratio, dum tamen uester error ille tollatur, quo dicitis duo principia duarum naturarum, bonae et malae, et plane duos deos, unum bonum et alterum malum. iam uero si propterea malum est aliquid, quod alteri nocet, inuicem sibi ista nocuerunt, fuerit una pars inprobior, quia prior adpetiuit alienum.
Therefore, even in these two natures considered in themselves, you are compelled to confess either two goods or two evils. We grant to you: if you shall say two evils, that you may call whichever of these you please the worse; but if two goods, call whichever of these you please the better—there will afterward be a more diligent consideration—provided only that that error of yours be removed, whereby you say there are two principles of two natures, good and evil, and plainly two gods, one good and the other evil. Now indeed, if a thing is evil for this reason, that it harms another, they harmed each other in turn; one part will have been more wicked, because it first coveted what was another's.
因此,就這兩種本性各自而言,你們也被迫承認它們或是兩樣善,或是兩樣惡。我們容讓你們:你們若說是兩樣惡,可任意稱其中之一為較壞的;但若說是兩樣善,可任意稱其中之一為較好的——此後再作更詳細的考量——只要你們那謬誤得以除去,就是你們所說有兩種本性的兩個本原,善的與惡的,並且分明有兩個神,一善一惡。如今實在說來,若一物因傷害別的就算為惡,那麼它們彼此互相傷害了;有一方將是較邪惡的,因為它先貪圖了別人的東西。
15:854
una ergo malum inferre uoluit, altera malum pro malo retribuit, et non lege talionis tamquam oculum pro oculo, quod inprudenter et inpudenter reprehendere soletis, sed multo grauius. eligite ergo. quam peiorem dicatis, quae prior nocere uoluit, an quae amplius nocere et uoluit et potuit. ista enim pro modo suo luce perfrui concupiuit, illa eam funditus eradicauit. ista si, quod adpetiuit, inplesset, sibi certe nihil obfuisset; illa uero ut hostilem aduersitatem penitus euerteret, etiam suae parti grauiter nocuit. sicut est illa notissima et quarundam litterarum memoriae commendata furiosa sententia: pereant amici, dum inimici una intercidant.
One, then, wished to inflict evil, the other repaid evil for evil, and not by the law of retaliation, as it were an eye for an eye—which you are wont imprudently and impudently to reprehend—but much more grievously. Choose, then, which you would call the worse: the one that first wished to harm, or the one that both wished and was able to harm more. For this one desired to enjoy the light after its own measure; that one uprooted it utterly. This one, if it had fulfilled what it coveted, would certainly have done itself no harm; but that one, in order to overturn its hostile adversity to the very roots, gravely harmed even its own part. As is that most notorious frenzied sentiment, committed to the memory of certain writings: Let friends perish, provided that enemies fall along with them.
這樣,一方想施加惡,另一方以惡報惡,且不是照報復之律、彷彿以眼還眼——這是你們慣於輕率無恥地非難的——乃是更為嚴重地報復。那麼你們選擇吧,要稱哪一方為較壞的:是那先想加害的,還是那既想加害、又能加害更甚的。因為這一方只是想按自己的分量享受那光;那一方卻把它連根拔起。這一方若成就了所貪圖的,於己確實無損;那一方為要把敵對的仇恨連根傾覆,卻連自己一方也嚴重加害了。正如那句最臭名昭著、載於某些文獻記憶中的狂悖之言:讓朋友滅亡,只要仇敵一同喪命就好。
15:855
missa est enim ad inexpiabilem contaminationem pars dei, ut esset, unde tegeretur globus, quo in aeternum hostis uiuus sepeliendus est; tantum enim timebitur et uictus, tantum terrebit inclusus, ut sempiterna miseria partis dei cetero deo tribuat qualemcumque securitatem. o magna innocentia bonitatis! ecce faciet et deus uester, unde tenebrarum gentem horribiliter accusatis, quod et suis noceat et alienis. id ipsum omnino in deo uestro arguit ille globus extremus, quo et hostis includitur et ciuis adfligitur; immo uero superat in amplius nocendo et alienis et suis pars illa, quam dicitis deum. hyle quippe non eradicare alienum regnum uoluit, sed tenere;
For a part of God was sent to inexpiable contamination, that there might be something whereby the lump might be covered, in which the living enemy is to be buried forever; for it will be so feared even when conquered, will so terrify when shut up, that the everlasting misery of the part of God should confer some sort of security on the rest of God. O great innocence of goodness! Behold, your god too will do that for which you horribly accuse the race of darkness—namely, that it harms both its own and others. This very thing that final lump, in which both the enemy is shut in and the citizen is afflicted, altogether convicts in your god; nay rather, that part which you call god surpasses it in harming both others and its own more grievously. For hyle indeed did not wish to uproot the alien kingdom, but to hold it;
因為神的一部分被送去受不可贖的污染,好使有東西可以遮蓋那團塊,那活著的仇敵要永遠被埋在其中;因為它連被征服時也要如此被懼怕,被囚禁時也要如此使人恐怖,以致神那一部分永久的悲慘竟給神其餘的部分帶來某種穩妥。哦,良善之無辜何其偉大!看哪,你們的神也要行你們所可怕地控告黑暗族類的那事——就是既害己方,也害他方。你們既把仇敵囚禁在其中、又使公民在其中受苦的那最終團塊,這事本身完全在你們的神身上定了罪;不如說,你們稱為神的那一部分,在更嚴重地既害他方又害己方上,還勝過了黑暗族類。因為物質(hyle)並不想把外邦的國度連根拔起,只想佔有它;
15:856
suos autem quosdam etsi ab aliis suis quibusdam consumendo interimebat, in alias tamen formas denuo commutabat, ut moriendo et renascendo saltem per interualla temporum suae uitae laetitia fruerentur; deus autem, qualem omnipotentem optimumque describitis, in aeternum et alienos eradicat et suos damnat; et quod mirabiliore dementia creditur, hyle animalia sua laedit in pugna sua, deus membra sua punit in uictoria sua. quid est, uani homines? nempe recordamini uerba Fausti de deo tamquam de antidoto et hyle tamquam ueneno; ecce plus nocet uestrum antidotum quam uenenum. numquid hyle tam horrendo globo in aeternum uel deum includeret uel sua uiscera adfigeret?
and though it destroyed certain of its own by consuming them through certain others of its own, yet it changed them anew into other forms, so that by dying and being reborn they might at least, through intervals of time, enjoy the gladness of their own life; but God, such as you describe as omnipotent and best, both uproots aliens and damns his own forever; and—what is believed with a more marvelous madness—hyle harms its own animals in its own fight, God punishes his own members in his own victory. What is this, vain men? Recall, to be sure, the words of Faustus about God as though about an antidote, and hyle as though about a poison; behold, your antidote harms more than the poison. Would hyle shut up even a god forever in so horrible a lump, or fix its own bowels there?
它雖藉自己的某些成員吞噬而毀滅自己的某些成員,卻仍把牠們重新變作別的形狀,使牠們藉死亡與重生,至少能在時間的間隔中享受自己生命的歡樂;但神,就是你們所描述為全能至善的,卻既把外邦連根拔起,又永遠定罪自己的一方;而且——這是以更奇異的瘋狂被人相信的——物質(hyle)在自己的爭戰中傷害自己的動物,神卻在自己的勝利中懲罰自己的肢體。虛妄的人哪,這是什麼道理?你們不妨回想浮士德論神如同解藥、論物質如同毒藥的話;看哪,你們的解藥比毒藥害處更大。物質豈會把一位神永遠囚在如此可怕的團塊裡,或把自己的臟腑釘在其中麼?
15:857
et quod sceleratius est, calumniatur eisdem reliquiis, ne defecisse uideatur, quod eas purgare non potuit. dicit enim Manichaeus in epistula Fundamenti ideo dignas illas animas fieri tali subplicio, quod errare se a priore lucida sua natura passae sunt et inimicae lumini sancto exstiterunt, cum eas in illum errorem, quo ita tenebrarentur, ut inimica luci lux fieret, ipse miserit: si inuitas, iniustus, ut cogeret; si uolentes. ingratus. ut damnet. quae se futuras inimicas origini suae si praescire potuerunt, et ante bellum timore cruciatae et in bello inexpiabiliter maculatae et post bellum in aeternum damnatae, numquam beatae; si autem praescire non potuerunt.
And—what is more wicked—he slanders those same remnants, lest he seem to have failed in that he could not purge them. For Manichaeus says in the Epistle of the Foundation that those souls become worthy of such punishment for this reason, that they suffered themselves to wander from their former luminous nature and became enemies to the holy light—although he himself sent them into that error, whereby they were so darkened that light became an enemy to light: if unwilling, he is unjust, in that he compelled them; if willing, he is ungrateful, in that he damns them. If they could foreknow that they would become enemies to their own origin, then both before the war they were tormented with fear, and in the war they were inexpiably defiled, and after the war they were damned forever, never blessed; but if they could not foreknow,
而且——更為邪惡的是——他還誹謗那些殘餘,免得因不能潔淨它們而顯得是失敗了。因為摩尼在《根基書信》中說,那些靈魂之所以配受這樣的刑罰,是因它們容許自己從先前光明的本性漂流失散,成了聖光的仇敵——雖然是他自己把它們差入那錯謬中,使它們昏暗到如此地步,以致光成了光的仇敵:他若是強逼不情願的,就是不義;他若定罪甘願的,就是忘恩。它們若能預知自己將成為自己本源的仇敵,那麼牠們在戰前既受懼怕的折磨,在戰中又被不可贖地玷污,戰後又被永遠定罪,從未有福;但牠們若不能預知,
15:858
et ante bellum inprouidae et in bello inualidae et post bellum miserae, numquam diuinae. et utique quod ipsae. hoc deus secundum unitatem substantiae. putamusne, respicitis, quam inmaniter blasphematis ? et tamen aliquando uolentes quasi defendere bonitatem dei etiam ipsi hyle praestare dicitis aliquid boni. ut inclusa in semet ipsa non saeuiat. habebit ergo aliquid boni, cum ei nullum mixtum erit bonum? an forte sicut deus ante bellum sine commixtione mali habebat necessitatis malum, ita hyle post bellum sine commixtione boni habebit commixtionis bonum ? dicite ergo duo mala, sed unum altero peius; .
then both before the war they were improvident, and in the war they were powerless, and after the war they were wretched, never divine. And assuredly what these are, that God is, according to the unity of substance. Do we think, do you regard, how monstrously you blaspheme? And yet sometimes, wishing as it were to defend the goodness of God, you yourselves say that even to hyle something of good is granted, so that, shut up in itself, it may not rage. It will therefore have something of good, when nothing of good is mixed into it? Or perhaps, just as God before the war, without commingling of evil, had the evil of necessity, so hyle after the war, without commingling of good, will have the good of commingling? Say, then, two evils, but the one worse than the other;
那麼牠們在戰前就是無先見的,在戰中就是無能的,戰後就是悲慘的,從未有神性。並且,這些靈魂是什麼,按本體的合一,神也就是什麼。我們豈不思想,你們豈不看出,你們是何等駭人地褻瀆麼?然而你們有時彷彿要維護神的良善,竟自己說連物質(hyle)也蒙賜了些微的善,好叫它被囚在自身之內時不至暴怒。那麼它豈能有些微的善,而其中卻沒有摻入任何善呢?或者,或許正如神在戰前沒有摻入惡卻有必需之惡,物質在戰後沒有摻入善卻有摻合之善?那麼就說是兩樣惡吧,只是一樣比另一樣更壞;
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aut duo non summa bona, sed unum altero melius, ita sane, ut quod est melius hoc dicatis miserius; nam si illius tanti belli hic erit exitus, ut separata hyle a propria uastatione et dei membris adfixis in globo aliquid boni praestetur hostibus et tantum mali infligatur ciuibus, cogitate, quis uicerit. sed uidelicet uenenum est hyle, quae formare, firmare, nutrire, uegetare ualuit animalia sua; et antidotum deus, qui damnare potuit, quia sanare non potuit membra sua. insani, nec illa est hyle, nec ille deus. sic delirent, qui sanam doctrinam non sustinentes ad fabulas conuertuntur. LIBER ALTER ET UICESIMUS. FAUSTUS dixit: Cur legem blasphematis et prophetas ?
or two goods, not supreme, but the one better than the other—yet so, indeed, that what is better you should call the more wretched; for if this will be the outcome of that so great war, that when hyle is separated off from its own devastation, and the members of God are fixed in the lump, something of good is granted to the enemies and so much of evil is inflicted on the citizens—consider who has conquered. But indeed, forsooth, hyle is the poison, which was able to form, strengthen, nourish, and invigorate its own animals; and God the antidote, who was able to damn, because he could not heal, his own members. Insane men! Neither is that hyle, nor is he God. So do those rave who, not enduring sound doctrine, turn to fables. BOOK TWENTY-TWO. FAUSTUS said: Why do you blaspheme the law and the prophets?
或說是兩樣善,並非至高的善,只是一樣比另一樣更好——然而是這樣的:你們竟要稱那更好的為更悲慘的;因為那如此大的爭戰若有這樣的結局,就是當物質(hyle)從它自身的荒涼中被分離出去、而神的肢體被釘在團塊裡時,仇敵倒蒙了些許的善,公民卻受了那麼多的惡——那麼想想,究竟是誰得了勝。然而,果真如此,物質竟是那能塑造、堅固、滋養、激勵自己動物的毒藥;而神竟是那能定罪、因為不能醫治自己肢體的解藥。瘋狂的人哪!那既不是物質,這也不是神。那些不肯持守純正道理、反去隨從無稽之談的人,就是這樣胡言亂語。第二十二卷。浮士德說:你們為何褻瀆律法和先知?
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minime quidem nos hostes sumus aut inimici legis ac pro. phetarum, sed nec ullius omnino, adeo ut. si modo. per ipsos nos liceat, simus parati fateri falsa illa omnia esse, quae de eis scripta sunt et quorum causa uidentur nobis exosi. sed enim uos repugnatis et scriptoribus adsentiendo uestris in crimen forsitan prophetas innocentes adducitis, infamatis patriarchas, dedecoratis et legem atque, quod sit stultius, uultis et scriptores uestros non esse mendaces et eos tamen religiosos ac sanctos, quorum hi flagitia et turpes conscripserint uitas. quod quia utrumque pariter constare non potest, oportet enim aut hos fuisse malos, aut illos mendaces et falsos.
Indeed we are by no means foes or enemies of the law and the prophets, nor of anyone at all—so much so that, if only it be permitted us through them, we are ready to confess that all those things are false which are written about them and on account of which they seem hateful to us. But you resist, and by assenting to your writers you perhaps bring innocent prophets into blame, defame the patriarchs, dishonor even the law; and—what is more foolish—you wish both that your writers are not liars, and that yet those men are religious and holy, whose disgraceful deeds and shameful lives these writers have recorded. Since these two cannot equally stand together, it must be either that these men were evil, or that those writers were lying and false.
我們斷不是律法和先知的仇敵或對頭,也不是任何人的仇敵——甚至到一個地步,只要藉著他們容許我們,我們就準備承認一切關於他們所寫、並使他們對我們顯為可憎的事都是假的。但你們卻抗拒,且藉著贊同你們的作者,或許把無辜的先知帶入罪責,毀謗列祖,甚至羞辱律法;而且——更為愚蠢的是——你們竟要同時主張你們的作者並非說謊者,而那些人卻仍是虔誠聖潔的,儘管這些作者記載了他們的醜行和可恥的生平。既然這兩者不能一同成立,那麼必然或是這些人是惡的,或是那些作者是說謊虛假的。
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Age, si libet, adsensu communi scriptoribus damnatis defensionem suscipiamus legis et prophetarum. legem autem nunc dico ego non circumcisionem nec sabbata et sacrificia ceteraque huiusmodi Iudaeorum, sed eam, quae uere sit lex, id est: non occides, non moechaberis, non peiurabis et cetera. cui quia olim diffamatae in gentibus, id est ex quo mundi huius creatura consistit, Hebraeorum scriptores inruentes tamquam lepram ac scabiem abominanda haec-sua et turpissima praecepta commiscuerunt, quae ad peritomen spectant et sacrificia, age, si es certo et tu amicus legis, damna eos mecum, qui hanc uiolare ausi sunt hac commixtione inconuenientium eidem praeceptorum:
Come now, if you please, by common assent let us condemn the writers and take up the defense of the law and the prophets. But by the law I now mean not circumcision nor sabbaths and sacrifices and the other things of this sort of the Jews, but that which is truly law, that is: Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not swear falsely, and the rest. Since to this, long ago spread abroad among the nations—that is, from the time when the creature of this world subsists—the Hebrew writers, rushing in as it were with leprosy and scab, mingled these abominable and most base precepts of their own, which look to circumcision and sacrifices—come now, if you too are certainly a friend of the law, condemn with me those who dared to violate it by this commingling of things unsuited to the same precepts:
那麼來吧,若你們願意,讓我們憑共同的同意譴責那些作者,並為律法和先知辯護。但我如今所說的律法,不是指割禮、安息日、祭祀,以及猶太人此類其他的事,乃是指那真正是律法的,就是:不可殺人、不可姦淫、不可起假誓,以及其餘。這律法早已傳遍萬國——就是從這世界的受造物存在之時起——希伯來的作者卻如同帶著痲瘋與疥癬闖入,把他們自己這些可憎、極其卑鄙、關乎割禮和祭祀的誡命摻雜其中——那麼來吧,你們若真是律法之友,就與我一同譴責那些膽敢用這種不相宜之物摻雜同一誡命、以致褻瀆律法的人:
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quae praecepta nisi et uos legem non esse sciretis, nec legis partem utique aut eadem seruare niteremini professi iustitiam, aut uos coram fateremini esse non iustos. nunc uero et de illis, quae scelera prohibent mandatis, sollicita uobis est cura recte uolentibus uiuere, et de his, quae pertinent ad Iudaeos, nulla fit mentio: quod quatenus excusatum uobis erit, nisi eadem legem non esse constiterit? denique si, sicut incenderis intolerabile conuicium iudicans, si quis te neglegentem praecepti huius appellet, quo dictum est: non occides uel non moechaberis. ita etiam exardesceres, si quis te et incircumcisum uocaret et neglegentem sabbati.
which precepts—unless you too knew they were not law—you would not, professing righteousness, strive to keep even a part of the law, or else would confess yourselves openly to be not righteous. But now you have anxious care to live rightly with regard to those commandments which forbid crimes, and of those things which pertain to the Jews no mention is made; and how far this will be excused to you, unless it be established that these same are not law? Finally, if—just as you would judge it an intolerable insult, kindling into flame, should anyone call you negligent of this precept whereby it is said, Thou shalt not kill, or Thou shalt not commit adultery—so likewise you would blaze up, should anyone call you both uncircumcised and negligent of the sabbath,
這些誡命——你們若不是也知道它們並非律法——你們既宣稱義,就不會只努力遵守律法的一部分,否則就是公開承認自己不是義人了。但如今你們對那些禁止罪行的誡命,殷勤存心要正直度日,而對那些關乎猶太人的事卻隻字不提;除非確定這些同樣的事並非律法,否則這在你們身上怎能得寬容呢?末了,若是——正如你們必定判定這是不可容忍的侮辱、勃然大怒,倘若有人稱你們疏忽那說「不可殺人」或「不可姦淫」的誡命——你們同樣要發怒,倘若有人稱你們既是未受割禮的、又是疏忽安息日的,
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erat intellegi procul dubio, quod esset utrumque lex et dei mandatum; nunc uero et de illis superioribus laudem quaeris et gloriam, si ea conserues, et de his nullam eiusdem boni iacturam metuis, quia contemnis. quare constat haec, ut dixi, non esse legem, sed legis potius maculas et scabiem: quae si damnantur a nobis, damnantur uti falsa, non ut legitima. nec tangit conuicium hoc legem nec legis auctorem deum, sed eos, qui hunc et illam nefariis suis religionibus inscripserunt. ut autem interdum legis nos reuerendum nomen, cum Iudaica praecepta persequimur, lacessamus, uestro fit uitio, qui inter Hebraicas institutiones et legem nullum uultis esse discrimen;
then it would be understood beyond doubt that both were law and a commandment of God. But now you seek praise and glory concerning those higher precepts, if you keep them, and concerning these you fear no loss of the same good, because you despise them. Wherefore it is established that these, as I have said, are not law, but rather the blemishes and scab of the law: which, if they are condemned by us, are condemned as false, not as legitimate. Nor does this reproach touch the law, nor God the author of the law, but those who inscribed both Him and it with their nefarious religious observances. But that we sometimes assail the venerable name of the law, when we prosecute the Jewish precepts, comes about by your fault, who wish there to be no distinction between the Hebrew institutions and the law;
那麼就會毫無疑問地明白,這兩者都是律法、都是神的誡命。但如今你們遵守那些較高的誡命,就求稱讚和榮耀;而對這些誡命,你們既然藐視,就不怕喪失同一種的好處。所以正如我所說,確定這些並非律法,倒是律法的瑕疵與疥癬:這些若被我們譴責,乃是作為假的被譴責,而非作為合法的被譴責。這責備既不觸及律法,也不觸及那立律法的神,只觸及那些用他們邪惡的宗教規條把祂與律法一同刻寫進去的人。至於我們有時在攻擊猶太人誡命時,冒犯了律法可敬之名,這是出於你們的過錯,因你們不願在希伯來的規制與律法之間有任何分別;
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alioquin reddite legi propriam dignitatem. Israheliticas ab eadem turpitudines tamquam uerrucas incidite, deformationis eius crimen scriptoribus inputate, et statim uidebitis nos Iudaismi inimicos fuisse, non legis. nomen est, quod uos decipit, quia cui iure debeat adscribi, non nostis. Ad haec et prophetas ac patriarchas uestros cur nos blasphemare existimetis, ego non uideo. nam si a nobis scripta haec dictataue fuissent, quae idem commisisse leguntur, esset uestra haec in nos non inrationabilis accusatio; ubi uero aut ab ipsis eadem scripta sunt contra honestatis morem de uitiis captantibus gloriam aut ab eorum sociis ac paribus, nostra quae istic culpa est?
otherwise, render to the law its own proper dignity. Cut away from it the Israelitish basenesses as if they were warts, impute the crime of its deformation to the writers, and you will at once see that we have been enemies of Judaism, not of the law. It is the name that deceives you, because you know not to whom it ought by right to be ascribed. Besides these things, why you should think that we blaspheme your prophets and patriarchs, I do not see. For if these things had been written or dictated by us, which the same men are read to have committed, this your accusation against us would not be unreasonable; but where these things are written either by the men themselves, contrary to the custom of honor, snatching glory from vices, or by their associates and peers, what fault of ours is there in this?
不然,就把律法本有的尊嚴歸還給它。把那些以色列的卑污如同疣贅一般割除,把它遭毀形的罪歸咎於那些作者,你們就會立刻看出我們一向是猶太教的仇敵,不是律法的仇敵。是那名稱迷惑了你們,因你們不知道它按理當歸屬於誰。除這些以外,你們為何認為我們褻瀆你們的先知和列祖,我實在看不出來。因為若這些被記載為那些人所犯的事,是由我們所寫或所口授的,那麼你們對我們的這控告便不算無理;但這些事若是由那些人自己違背體面的常規、從惡行中攫取榮耀而寫的,或是由他們的同夥同輩所寫的,這其中我們有什麼過錯呢?
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damnamus enim detestati actus iniquos, quos ultro de se nec interrogati confessi sunt rei; aut si haec per inuidiam scriptorum aduersus eos malignitas finxit, puniantur scriptores, damnentur eorum libri, purgetur propheticum nomen indigna fama, grauitati atque censurae suae patriarcharum reddatur auctoritas. Et sane fieri potuit, ut quemadmodum de deo inpudenter idem tanta finxerunt, nunc eum in tenebris ex aeterno uersatum dicentes et postea miratum cum uidisset lucem. nunc ignarum futuri, ut praeceptum illud, quod non esset seruaturus Adam.
For we condemn, in detestation, the iniquitous acts which the guilty, of their own accord and unasked, confessed concerning themselves; or if this malignity feigned these things against them through the envy of the writers, let the writers be punished, let their books be condemned, let the prophetic name be cleared of unworthy report, let the authority of the patriarchs be restored to its own gravity and censure. And indeed it might well have come to pass that, just as they impudently feigned so many things concerning God—now saying that He dwelt from eternity in darkness and afterward marveled when He saw the light, now that He was ignorant of the future, so that He gave that command which Adam was not going to keep.
因為我們憎惡地譴責那些不義的行為,就是那些有罪之人自願、未經詢問便自認的;或者,若這惡意是藉作者的嫉妒捏造來加害他們的,那就讓那些作者受罰,讓他們的書被譴責,讓先知之名從不配的惡名中得洗清,讓列祖的權威恢復其應有的莊重與尊嚴。並且實在可能有這樣的事:正如他們無恥地捏造了許多關於神的事——如今說祂從永古住在黑暗中、後來看見光時就驚奇,如今又說祂不知將來,以致頒下那條亞當並不會遵守的誡命。
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ei mandaret, nunc et inprouidum, ut eum latentem in angulo paradisi post nuditatem cognitam uidere non posset, nunc et inuidum ac timentem, ne, si gustaret homo suus de ligno uitae, in aeternum uiueret, nunc alias et adpetentem sanguinis atque adipis ex omni genere sacrificiorum zelantemque, si et aliis eadem offerrentur ut sibi, et nunc irascentem in alienos, nunc et in suos, nunc perimentem milia hominum ob leuia quidem aut nulla commissa, nunc etiam comminantem uenturum se fore cum gladio et parciturum nemini, non iusto, non peccatori: fieri, inquam, potuit, ut et de dei hominibus mentirentur, qui de deo ipso tanta proteruitate mentiti sunt.
...that He should command him; now also as improvident, since He could not see him hiding in a corner of paradise after his nakedness was known; now also as envious and fearful, lest, if His man should taste of the tree of life, he should live forever; now again as greedy for blood and fat from every kind of sacrifice, and jealous if the same offerings were made to others as to Himself; and now as angry against strangers, now against His own people; now slaying thousands of men for trivial faults or none at all; now even threatening that He would come with a sword and would spare no one, neither the righteous nor the sinner. It could well happen, I say, that they should lie about the men of God, who have lied about God Himself with such insolence.
……祂竟吩咐他;如今又說祂沒有先見,因為在人的赤身露體被察覺之後,祂竟看不見那藏在樂園角落的人;如今又說祂嫉妒且懼怕,唯恐祂所造的人若嘗了生命樹的果子,就要永遠活著;如今又說祂貪求各樣祭牲的血與脂油,並且嫉妒,倘若別人也得著與祂同樣的獻祭;如今又說祂向外邦人發怒,如今又向自己的百姓發怒;如今為了輕微甚至全無的過犯而擊殺千萬人;如今更威嚇說祂要帶著刀劍前來,並不顧惜一人,無論義人罪人。我說,那些對神本身如此放肆地撒謊的人,也大有可能對神的僕人撒謊。
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sed uos consentite nobiscum, ut portent scriptores crimen. si uultis eodem liberari prophetas. Alioquin neque illa nos de Abraham scripsimus. quod habendae prolis insana flagrans cupidine et deo, qui id iam sibi de Sara coniuge promiserat, minime credens cum pelice uolutatus sit sub conscientiaquo sit inhonestiusuxoris: nec quod matrimonii sui infamissimus nundinator idem auaritiae ac uentris causa duobus regibus, Abimelech et Pharaoni, diuersis temporibus memoratam Saram coniugem suam sororem mentitus, quia erat pulcherrima, in concubitum uenditauit;
But agree with us in this, that the writers should bear the blame, if you wish thereby to acquit the prophets. Otherwise, we did not write these things about Abraham either: that, burning with a mad desire to have offspring, and giving little credit to God, who had already promised him this from Sarah his wife, he lay with a concubine—and, to make it the more shameful, with his wife's knowledge; nor that this most infamous huckster of his own marriage, for the sake of avarice and his belly, at different times sold his wife Sarah into the embrace of two kings, Abimelech and Pharaoh, falsely calling her his sister because she was very beautiful;
但你們要在這一點上同意我們:若你們願意藉此使先知得以脫罪,就讓那些作者承擔罪名罷。否則,關於亞伯拉罕的這些事也並非我們所寫:他因瘋狂渴望得子而燃燒,竟不肯全然信靠那已從他妻子撒拉應許他後裔的神,反與妾侍同房——而且,更為可恥的是,還是在妻子知情之下;也不是我們所寫,這位極其臭名昭著、拿自己婚姻做買賣的人,為著貪財與口腹之慾,在不同的時候把他妻子撒拉謊稱為妹妹,因她甚為美貌,就把她賣與二王亞比米勒和法老,任其同寢;
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nec quod Loth ipsius frater de Sodoma liberatus cum duabus filiabus suis in monte concubuitqui honestius arsisset in Sodoma ictu fulminis quam in monte flagrauit inconcessae libidinis flammased nec quod Isaac eadem patri suo gessit ac paria erga Rebeccam coniugem suam fingens et ipse eam sororem, quo per ipsam uiueret turpiter; nec quod Iacob filius eius inter Rachel et Liam duas germanas sorores earumque singulas famulas quattuor uxorum maritus tamquam hircus errauerit, ut esset cotidie inter quattuor scorta certamen. quaenam eum uenientem de agro prior ad concubitum raperet. interdumque etiam mercedibus in noctem ab inuicem conducerent eum;
nor that Lot, his own brother, having been delivered from Sodom, lay with his two daughters upon the mountain—who would more honourably have burned in Sodom by the stroke of lightning than have flamed on the mountain with the fire of forbidden lust; nor that Isaac did the same thing to his father, and dealt likewise concerning Rebecca his wife, himself too pretending that she was his sister, that through her he might live basely; nor that Jacob his son, husband of four wives, roamed like a he-goat between Rachel and Leah, two full sisters, and their two several handmaids, so that daily there was a contest among the four harlots as to which should first seize him for intercourse when he came from the field, and at times they even hired him from one another for the night by wages;
也不是我們所寫,他的親兄弟羅得從所多瑪蒙拯救出來以後,竟在山上與他兩個女兒同寢——他若在所多瑪被雷擊焚燒而死,倒比在山上被那不容許的情慾之火焚燒更為光彩;也不是我們所寫,以撒對他父親行了同樣的事,並對他妻子利百加照樣行,自己也假稱她是妹妹,好藉著她卑鄙地保命;也不是我們所寫,他兒子雅各作了四個妻子的丈夫,像公山羊一般在拉結與利亞這兩個同胞姊妹以及她們各自的兩個使女之間游走,以致每日那四個婦人之間都有爭競,看誰能在他從田間回來時先把他奪去同房,有時甚至彼此出價僱他過夜;
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item quod ludas filius eius cum Thamar nuru sua dormierit post unius et alterius nuptias filii deceptus. ut aiunt, prostitutionis habitu, in quem se transformauerat eadem, quae socerum suum bene nosset cum hoc genere feminarum semper habuisse commercium; nec quod Dauid post tot numero uxores mulierculam quoque Uriae militis sui moechatus sit ipsumque perdiderit in bello; nec quod Salomon filius eius trecentas uxores et septingentas concubinas habuerit et regum filias sine numero;
likewise that his son Judah slept with Tamar his daughter-in-law after the marriages of one and then another of his sons, being deceived, as they say, by her disguise of a prostitute, into which the same woman had transformed herself, she who well knew that her father-in-law had always had dealings with women of this kind; nor that David, after so great a number of wives, committed adultery also with the poor wife of Uriah his soldier, and destroyed the man himself in war; nor that Solomon his son had three hundred wives and seven hundred concubines and kings' daughters without number;
照樣也不是我們所寫,他的兒子猶大在他一個又一個兒子成婚之後,竟與他的兒婦她瑪同寢,據說是被她所扮的妓女裝束所欺騙——她本自變作那模樣,她深知她的公公素來慣與這一類婦女來往;也不是我們所寫,大衛在娶了那麼多妻子之後,竟又與他兵丁烏利亞可憐的妻子行姦淫,並在戰場上害死那人本身;也不是我們所寫,他兒子所羅門有妃三百、嬪七百,並有列王之女多得無數;
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nec quod Osee prophetarum primus de fornicaria muliere filios feceritcui turpitudini, quo sit deterius, ascribitur et consilium deised nec illud, quod Moyses homicidium fecerit, quod spoliauerit Aegyptum, quod bella gesserit, quod crudelia multa et mandarit et fecerit, quod ne ipse quidem uno contentus matrimonio fuerit: haec, inquam, et horum similia, quae in diuersis eorum habentur libris, nihil a nobis scriptum, nihil dictatum est; sed aut scriptorum uestrorum ista commenta sunt falsa aut patrum crimina uera. uos utrum uultis eligite; nam nos aut hos aut illos pariter detestari necesse est, quia tam malos et turpes odimus quam mendaces. AUGUSTINUS respondit:
nor that Hosea, first of the prophets, begot children of a harlot woman—to which shameful act, to make it the worse, the counsel of God is also ascribed—nor yet that Moses committed homicide, that he despoiled Egypt, that he waged wars, that he both commanded and did many cruel things, that not even he was content with a single marriage. These things, I say, and things like them, which are found in their various books, were neither written nor dictated by us; but either these tales of your writers are false, or the crimes of your fathers are true. Choose which you will; for we are compelled to detest either the one or the other alike, since we hate men so wicked and base as much as we hate liars. AUGUSTINE replied:
也不是我們所寫,先知中頭一位的何西阿竟從一個淫婦生了兒女——為使其更為惡劣,這可恥之事還被歸於神的旨意——更不是我們所寫,摩西行了殺人的事,擄掠了埃及,發動了戰爭,既吩咐又行了許多殘忍的事,甚至他自己也不以一次婚姻為足。我說,這些事以及類此的事,記在他們各卷書中,全非我們所寫,全非我們所述;但要麼是你們作者的這些故事乃是虛假,要麼是你們列祖的罪行乃是真實。你們願意選哪一樣就選罷;因為我們不得不同樣憎惡這一等或那一等人,因為我們厭惡如此邪惡卑劣之人,正如厭惡說謊之人。奧古斯丁回答說:
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Nec sacramenta legis intellegitis nec facta prophetarum, quia neque sanctitatem neque iustitiam cogitare nostis. sed de praeceptis et sacramentis ueteris testamenti saepe ac multa iam diximus, ut intellegeretur aliud ibi fuisse, quod per gratiam noui testamenti faciendo donaretur inplendum, aliud, quod per ueritatem patefactam remouendo demonstraretur inpletum: cum dei et proximi dilectione susciperetur legis perficienda praeceptio, circumcisionis autem atque aliorum illius temporis sacramentorum cessatione ostenderetur legis persoluta promissio.
You understand neither the sacraments of the law nor the deeds of the prophets, because you know not how to consider either holiness or righteousness. But concerning the precepts and sacraments of the Old Testament we have already said much and often, that it might be understood that there was one thing therein which was to be fulfilled by being carried out, given through the grace of the New Testament, and another which, by being removed, was to be shown fulfilled through the truth made manifest: so that the precept of the law was received as to be perfected by the love of God and neighbour, while the promise of the law was shown discharged by the cessation of circumcision and of the other sacraments of that time.
你們既不明白律法的聖禮,也不明白先知的作為,因為你們不曉得思想聖潔或公義。但關於舊約的誡命與聖禮,我們已多次詳說,好叫人明白:其中有一樣是要藉著遵行而得成全的,是藉新約的恩典賜下叫人成就的;另有一樣是要藉著除去而顯明已經成就的,是藉那已顯明的真理而顯出的;如此,律法的誡命乃是要人以愛神愛人之心去領受、去成全,而律法的應許則藉著割禮與那時代其他聖禮的止息,顯明已然償清。
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praeceptum quippe reos faciebat ad desiderandam salutem, promissum autem figuras celebrabat ad expectandum saluatorem, ut per aduentum noui testamenti illos liberaret gratia donata, illas auferret ueritas reddita. ipsa enim lex, quae per Moysen data est, gratia et ueritas per Iesum Christum facta est: gratia scilicet, ut data indulgentia peccatorum, quod praeceptum erat, ex dei dono custodiretur, ueritas autem, ut ablata obseruatione umbrarum, quod promissum erat, ex dei fide praesentaretur.
For the precept made men guilty, that they might long for salvation, while the promise celebrated figures, that they might await the Saviour; so that through the coming of the New Testament grace bestowed might set free the former, and truth restored might take away the latter. For the very law that was given through Moses became grace and truth through Jesus Christ: grace, namely, so that, the indulgence of sins being given, what had been commanded might be kept by the gift of God; and truth, so that, the observance of the shadows being taken away, what had been promised might be made present through the faith of God.
因為誡命使人成為有罪的,好叫他們渴慕救恩;而應許則舉行那些預表,好叫他們等候救主;如此,藉著新約的來到,所賜下的恩典釋放前者,所復現的真理挪去後者。因為那藉摩西所傳的律法本身,已藉耶穌基督成了恩典和真理:所謂恩典,就是罪既得赦免,神所命定的便能藉神的恩賜得以持守;所謂真理,就是那些影兒的遵守既已除去,神所應許的便能藉神的信實得以呈現。
15:873
Proinde isti, qui ea, quae non intellegunt, reprehendentes lepram uel scabiem seu uerrucas legis esse dicunt promissiuas figuras sacramentorum, similes sunt hominibus, quibus displicent ea, quorum non capiunt utilitatem; uelut si surdus uidens moueri labia loquentium, tamquam superfluos oris motus deformesque reprehenderet; uel si quisquam caecus laudata sibi aliqua domo uellet palpando probare, quod dicitur, et parietum leuitatem manu pertractans in fenestras inrueret easque uelut inconuenientes illi aequalitati redargueret cauernasque ruinosas putaret.
Accordingly these men, who reproach the things they do not understand and call the promissory figures of the sacraments the leprosy or scab or warts of the law, are like men who are displeased by things whose usefulness they do not grasp; as if a deaf man, seeing the lips of speakers move, should censure the movements of the mouth as superfluous and unseemly; or as if some blind man, wishing to test by touch some house praised to him, whether it were as reported, and feeling with his hand the smoothness of the walls, should stumble into the windows and reprove them as inconsistent with that evenness, and think the openings to be ruinous crevices.
因此這等人,責備他們所不明白的事,稱聖禮那些預示性的預表為律法的大痲瘋、疥癬或肉瘤,就好像那些因不領會某物之用處便對它不滿的人;正如一個聾子看見說話之人的嘴唇動,便責備那口的動作為多餘且醜陋;又如一個瞎子,聽人稱讚某座房屋,便想用手觸摸來驗證所說的是否屬實,用手摸著牆壁的平滑,卻撞進了窗戶,便責備窗戶與那平整不相稱,還以為那些洞口是破敗欲塌的裂縫。
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Iam uero facta prophetarum etiam ipsa prophetica et mystica fuisse, quid agam, ut intellegant, quorum mentes uanitas occupauit, ita ut putent credi a nobis etiam ipsum deum aliquando in tenebris esse uersatum, quia scriptum est: tenebrae erant super abyssum, tamquam nos abyssum dicamus deum, ubi tenebrae erant, quia lux ibi non erat, antequam deus uerbo faceret lucem ? sed quia non distingunt inter lucem, quod est ipse deus, et lucem, quam fecit deus, ideo putant esse consequens, ut in tenebris ipse fuerit. antequam faceret lucem, cum tenebrae essent super abyssum, antequam diceret: fiat lux, et facta est lux. sicut enim in nouo testamento utrumque de illo dicitur - nam et:
Now indeed that the deeds of the prophets were themselves also prophetic and mystical—what am I to do, that they may understand, whose minds vanity has seized, so that they suppose we believe even God Himself to have at some time dwelt in darkness, because it is written, 'darkness was upon the deep,' as though we called God the deep, where the darkness was, because light was not there before God by His word made light? But because they do not distinguish between the light which is God Himself, and the light which God made, they therefore think it follows that He was Himself in darkness before He made light, when there was darkness upon the deep, before He said, 'Let there be light, and there was light.' For as in the New Testament both are said of Him—for it says both:
至於先知的作為本身也是預言性和奧祕性的——我當如何行,才能使他們明白呢?他們的心思已被虛妄所霸佔,以致他們以為我們竟相信連神自己也曾一度住在黑暗中,因為經上記著說:「淵面黑暗」,彷彿我們稱那黑暗所在的淵為神,因為在神藉祂的話造光之前,那裡沒有光。但因他們不分辨那作神自己的光,與神所造的光,就以為勢必如此:在祂造光之前,當淵面黑暗、祂尚未說「要有光,就有了光」之時,祂自己是在黑暗中。因為正如在新約裡,這兩樣都論到祂——因為經上既說:
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