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In Defence of the Three Chapters 37

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← ch. 36ch. 38 →
37:1
Intende nunc, Anguste, nobiscum, ut deprehend rc queas consueta furla latrenum, quomodo hanc sententiam, ex qua posuerunt, < Cyrillus aures omnium pigmento quod excaecat oculos sapientium, præoccupavit, et de episcopatu Nestorium deposuerunt judicio et inquisitione non facta, > non solum capite truncaverunt, neque contenti fuerunt solum cum capite fincm ejus auferre; sed ut apertius proderentur, quod non cai Ita brevitatis potius, quam obscurandæ v< rilatis hoc fecerint, etiam de medio ejus furti sunt alia, quæ legentibus facile demonstrarent reverentissimum Ibam, non pro Nestorii excusatione, sed episcoporum Orientis aliorumque injuria sic locutum.
Attend now with us, O Augustus, that you may be able to detect the wonted frenzy of robbers—how this sentence, from which they took the words, ‹Cyril forestalled the ears of all with the drug that blinds the eyes of the wise, and they deposed Nestorius from his episcopate, no trial and inquiry having been made,›—they not only truncated at the head, nor were they content merely to take away its head and its end; but, so that they might be more openly betrayed (since they did this not so much from a love of brevity as for the obscuring of the truth), they also stole away other things from the middle of it, which would easily show to readers that the most reverend Ibas had spoken thus not for the excusing of Nestorius, but because of the injury done to the bishops of the East and to the others.
奧古斯都啊,如今請與我們一同留意,使你能察覺那些盜竊者慣有的瘋狂——他們是如何處理這句話的:他們從中摘取了「區利羅用那使智者眼目失明的藥劑先入為主地蒙蔽眾人的耳朵,並未經審判與查究就將聶斯多留革除主教之職」這幾句——他們不僅在開頭把它截斷,也不滿足於只奪去它的首尾;更為了使自己更明顯地暴露(因為他們這樣做並非出於愛簡潔,而是為了掩蔽真理),他們還從句子中段偷去了別的內容,那些內容本可輕易向讀者表明:至尊的伊巴如此說話並非為開脫聶斯多留,而是因東方諸主教及其他人所受的傷害。
37:2
Nam conferte quae illi male decerpta posuerunt, et qaae nos sccundum ipsius epislo'ae tenorem posuimus, et non solum qu:c furati sunt, venum eliam furtorum causas videbitis. Cur cn;m imprimis narrationi ipsius epistolæ fugerent initium, quos inde oportebat incipere, nisi quia nescientibus quid epistola ipsa contineat, vel minus intelligentibus, subripere voluerunt? e Facio antem, inquit, initium narrationis de verbis quæ et ipse nosti. Contentio facta est, dum reverentia tua hic esset, bis duobus hominibus Nestorio et Cyrillo; ct conscripserunt adversus se noxios libros, qui scandalum fuerunt audientibus.
For compare the things which they have badly excerpted and set down, and those which we have set down according to the tenor of his letter, and you will see not only what they have stolen, but even the reasons for their thefts. For why, in the first place, did they flee the beginning of the narrative of his letter, from which it behooved them to begin, except that they wished to filch from those who do not know what the letter itself contains, or who understand it less? ‹I make the beginning of my narrative,› he says, ‹from the words which you yourself also know. A dispute arose, while your reverence was here, between these two men, Nestorius and Cyril; and they wrote harmful books against each other, which were a scandal to those who heard them.›
請比較他們拙劣摘錄並寫下的內容,與我們照他書信原文所列出的內容,你不但會看見他們偷去了什麼,更會看見他們行竊的緣由。因為他們首先為何避開他書信敘述的開端——那本是他們該從之起頭的地方——若非因為他們想對那些不知該信內容、或理解不足的人下手行竊呢?他說:「我從你本人也知道的那些事開始我的敘述。當你閣下在此時,這兩個人,聶斯多留與區利羅,之間起了爭論;他們彼此寫了有害的書,使聽見的人跌倒。」
37:3
Nestorius enim docuit in suis libris, sicut et reverentia tua novit, quia beata Maria Dai genitrix non est, ita ut multi putarent de hærese Pauli Samosateni hunc esse qui dixit hominem purum esse Cliristum; > et postea sequitur, unde isti coepcrunt: « Cyrillus autem volens Nestorii libros destruere, lapsus est, et in dogma Apollinaris inventus est incidisse. Conscripsit etiam et ipse similiter illi, quia ipse Dens Verbum factus est homo. » Et deinde sequitur illud, quod iterum subtraxerunt: < Tanquam non sit differentia inter templum et inhabitantem in eo.
For Nestorius taught in his books, as your reverence also knows, that blessed Mary is not the Mother of God, so that many thought him to be of the heresy of Paul of Samosata, who said that Christ is a mere man; and afterward there follows the part from which these men began: «But Cyril, wishing to destroy the books of Nestorius, fell, and was found to have lapsed into the dogma of Apollinaris. For he too wrote similarly to him, that God the Word himself was made man.» And then there follows that which they again subtracted: ‹As though there were no difference between the temple and Him who dwells in it.›
因為聶斯多留在他的書中教導——正如你閣下也知道的——那有福的馬利亞不是上帝之母,以致許多人以為他是屬於撒摩撒他的保羅那異端的人,那保羅曾說基督只是一個純粹的人;隨後便接著那些人所引用的起頭:「但區利羅想要毀掉聶斯多留的書,自己卻跌倒了,被發現陷入了亞波里拿留的教義。因為他也照那人的樣式寫道,說上帝之道本身成了人。」接著又有他們再次刪去的那句:「彷彿聖殿與住在其中者之間並無分別。」
37:4
» Cur itaque, sicut dixi, narrationis ipsius principia contingerc vitaverunt, unde potius ratio docendæ veritatis suadebat incipere, nisi quia falsitati contrarium est quod est conveniens veritati? Nam calumniari volentes huic epistolæ, quod quasi Nestorium excusaverit, occultare voluerunt quod ibi dictum est de ipso Nestorio vel beato Cyrillo: « Conscripserunt adversum sc noxios libros qui scandalo fuerunt audientibus. » Quomodo enim videretur reverentissimus Ibas excusasse Nestorium, si sciretur dixisse quod noxios Ii. bros qui scandalo essent audientibus, ipse quoque conscripserit ? Non igiiur excusando Nestorium, sed accusando simul beatum Cyrillum, videretur errasse;
Why then, as I said, did they avoid touching the beginnings of the narrative itself, from which the method of teaching the truth rather urged them to begin, except because that which is fitting to the truth is contrary to falsehood? For wishing to slander this letter, as though it had excused Nestorius, they wanted to hide what was there said about Nestorius himself or about blessed Cyril: «They wrote harmful books against each other, which were a scandal to those who heard them.» For how would the most reverend Ibas seem to have excused Nestorius, if he were known to have said that Nestorius too had written harmful books which were a scandal to those who heard them? Therefore, not by excusing Nestorius, but by accusing blessed Cyril along with him, would he seem to have erred;
那麼,正如我所說,他們為何避免觸及這敘述本身的開端——教導真理之法本當催促他們從那裡起頭——若非因為合於真理的,正與虛謊相違嗎?因為他們既想誣陷這封信,彷彿它曾為聶斯多留開脫,便想隱藏其中論及聶斯多留本人或有福的區利羅的話:「他們彼此寫了有害的書,使聽見的人跌倒。」因為若有人知道至尊的伊巴曾說聶斯多留也寫了使聽者跌倒的有害之書,他怎會顯得是在為聶斯多留開脫呢?因此,他顯得有錯,並非因開脫聶斯多留,而是因連同他一起指控了有福的區利羅;
37:5
quod, sicut in illo noxium judicavit quia beatam Mariam Dei genitricem negabat, ita et in sancto Cyrillo folium credidit quod eum putaverat similiter ut Apollinarem conscripsisse, quia ipse Deus Verbum sic factus est homo, ut non esset differentia inter templum et inhabitantem in eo. Et idcirco nec illud credendum est ad excusationem dictum esse Nestorii, quod isti quidem, nescio utrum conscientia renuente, aD quia præteriit illos in alias fraudes intentos, non posuerunt in eodem calumniarum atque mendaciorum suorum libro; tamen quod videmus ab eorum sociis vel satellitibus objectari, non omittimus simili ratione refellere. Nam cum memoratus venerabilis Ibas narraret ac diceret:
because, just as he judged it harmful in Nestorius that he denied blessed Mary to be the Mother of God, so also in holy Cyril he believed it a fault that he had supposed him to have written similarly to Apollinaris, namely, that God the Word was so made man that there was no difference between the temple and Him who dwells in it. And therefore neither is that to be believed to have been said for the excusing of Nestorius, which these men—I know not whether with conscience refusing, or because it overlooked them as they were intent on other frauds—did not put in the same book of their slanders and lies; yet what we see objected by their associates or henchmen, we do not omit to refute by like reasoning. For when the said venerable Ibas was narrating and saying:
因為,正如他判定聶斯多留否認有福的馬利亞為上帝之母是有害的,照樣他在聖區利羅身上也認為一個過錯,即他曾以為區利羅照亞波里拿留的樣式寫道,說上帝之道如此成了人,以致聖殿與住在其中者之間並無分別。因此,另一句話也不可被認為是為開脫聶斯多留而說的——那句話這些人並未放入他們那本誣陷與謊言之書中(我不知是良心拒絕,還是因他們專注於別的詭計而忽略了它);然而我們既見他們的同夥或爪牙提出此事,便不放過用同樣的道理加以駁斥。因為當上述可敬的伊巴敘述並說:「
37:6
Omnes orientales epi copi eumdem Cyrillum damnaverunt, et adversus altos episcopos, qui consenserunt ejns capitulis, ex communicationem decreverunt, ibi secutus adjecit: < Et post hanc turbationem unusquisque in suam civitatem reversus est. Nestorius autem, quoniam suae civitati odio erat, et qui erant in ea excellentioribus, illo reverti non potuit. » Objiciunt ergo nobis ei dicunt: Ecce ubi est rursus ab Iba Nestorius excusatus v quia non eum dixit ut hæreticum in suam civitatem reverti non potuisse, sed quoniam ci odio erat et qui erant in ea excellentionibus.
‹All the Eastern bishops condemned this same Cyril, and decreed excommunication against the other bishops who had assented to his chapters,› there, continuing, he added: ‹And after this disturbance, each one returned to his own city. But Nestorius, since he was hateful to his own city and to those who were of higher rank in it, could not return thither.› They therefore object to us and say: Behold, where again is Nestorius excused by Ibas? for he did not say that he could not return to his city as a heretic, but because he was hateful to it and to the more eminent men in it.
所有東方的主教都定了這位區利羅的罪,並對其餘同意他那些章的主教們宣判了絕罰」,他在那裡接著補充說:「在這場騷亂之後,各人都回到自己的城去。但聶斯多留,因他為自己的城以及城中那些尊貴者所憎惡,便不能回到那裡。」於是他們向我們質難,說:看哪,聶斯多留豈不又被伊巴開脫了嗎?因為他並沒有說聶斯多留作為異端者不能回他的城,而是說因他為那城及城中更顯赫的人所憎惡。
37:7
Quasi probare possint quod reverentissimus Ibas Nestorium dixerit, non propter haeresem, sed propter alias quascunque causas, odio fuisse civitati surr et qui erant in ea excellentioribus, ut in eam reverti non posset; qui superius jam dlxerat quod noxios conscripserit libros qui scandalo fuerint audientibus, quia beatam Mariam matrem Dei negabant. Respondemus igitur eis hoc rnodo, ut omittamus alia quibus refragantibus hæc calumnia multipliciter ac facillime confutatur: Nunquid alicubi reverentissimus Ibas ait quod Nestorius quidem odio erat suae civitati et qui erant in ea excellentioribus, sed non tanquam haereticus, ut in eam reverti non posset ? Non, inquiunt.
As if they could prove that the most reverend Ibas said Nestorius was hateful to his city and to the more eminent men in it, not on account of heresy but on account of any other causes whatsoever, so that he could not return to it; he who had already said above that Nestorius had written harmful books which were a scandal to those who heard them, because they denied blessed Mary the Mother of God. We therefore answer them in this way—to pass over the other points by which, when they are opposed, this slander is in manifold ways and most easily refuted: Did the most reverend Ibas anywhere say that Nestorius was indeed hateful to his city and to the more eminent men in it, but not as a heretic, so that he could not return to it? «No,» they say.
彷彿他們能證明至尊的伊巴是說聶斯多留為其城及城中更顯赫的人所憎惡,並非因異端,而是因任何別的緣由,以致他不能回去;而他先前已說過聶斯多留寫了使聽者跌倒的有害之書,因他們否認有福的馬利亞為上帝之母。因此我們這樣回答他們——姑且不論其他可以多方且極易駁倒這誣陷的論點:至尊的伊巴可曾在何處說過,聶斯多留固然為其城及城中更顯赫者所憎惡,但並非作為異端者,以致他不能回去?他們說:「沒有。」
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Nunquid hoc saltem dixit, odio erat suæ civitati et qui in ea erant excellentioribus, ob alias privatas causas, ut in eam reverti non posset ? Neque hoc, inquiunt. Si igitur nec hoc revcrentissimus Ibas dixit, quod quidem si diceret, non erat consequens ut qui pro aliis privatis causis odibilis diceretur, etiam pro sua hæresi negari videretur odibilis; tamen eum neque hoc dixerit: unde potestis ostendere quod his verbis venerabilis Ibæ fuerit Nestorius excusatus? An forte videretur vobis ad sacerdotis orthodoxi testimonium pertinere, si dicatur odio esse civitati suæ et qui in ea sunt excellentioribus? Non videretur, inquiunt;
Did he say at least this, that Nestorius was hateful to his city and to the more eminent men in it for other private causes, so that he could not return to it? «Neither this,» they say. If, therefore, the most reverend Ibas did not say even this—which, if he did say, it would not follow that one who was called odious for other private causes would on that account seem to be denied as odious for his heresy—yet he did not even say this: whence can you show that by these words of the venerable Ibas Nestorius was excused? Or perhaps it might seem to you to pertain to the testimony of an orthodox priest, if one be said to be hateful to his city and to the more eminent men in it? «It would not seem so,» they say;
他至少可曾說過這話,即聶斯多留為其城及城中更顯赫者所憎惡,是因別的私人緣由,以致他不能回去?他們說:「這話也沒有。」那麼,倘若至尊的伊巴連這話也未曾說過——而即便他真說了,也不能由此推出:一個因別的私人緣由被稱為可憎的人,就因此顯得在其異端方面被否認為可憎——況且他連這話都未說過:那麼你們憑什麼能表明,藉可敬的伊巴這些話聶斯多留就被開脫了呢?或者,若有人被說為其城及城中更顯赫者所憎惡,這在你們看來竟似乎屬於一個正統司鐸的見證嗎?他們說:「看來並非如此」;
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verumtamen in verbis bujus epistolæ subauditur hoc, quia Nestorius non hxreticus, sed ut ob alias privatas causas odibilis, in suam civitatem reverli non potuit. At ego in illis verbis hoc potius significatum subaudio, quia Nestorius tanquam haereticus odio erat suae civitati, ut in cam reverti non posset. Quænam subauditio acceptabilis esse videbitur ? Arbitror quod ea potius quae verbis superioribus congruit, quibus dictum est quod idem Neslorius noxios scripserit libros qui scandalo fuerint audientibus, quia beatam Mariam matrem Dei negabat: quam illa quae videtur his omnibus repugnare, 1 quia Nestorius pro suis noxiis Ii..
nevertheless, in the words of this letter this is implied, that Nestorius, not as a heretic, but as one odious for other private causes, could not return to his own city. But I, in those words, rather understand this to be signified, that Nestorius was hateful to his city as a heretic, so that he could not return to it. Which interpretation will seem the more acceptable? I judge that one rather which agrees with the foregoing words, in which it was said that this same Nestorius had written harmful books which were a scandal to those who heard them, because he denied blessed Mary the Mother of God: rather than that which seems to be repugnant to all these, namely, that Nestorius, on account of his harmful books
然而,在這封信的字句中,這意思是隱含著的:聶斯多留並非作為異端者,而是作為因別的私人緣由而可憎的人,才不能回他自己的城。但我在那些話中,倒理解所暗示的是這樣:聶斯多留作為異端者為其城所憎惡,以致不能回去。哪一種理解看來更為可取呢?我判斷倒是那與前文相符的一種——前文曾說這位聶斯多留寫了使聽者跌倒的有害之書,因他否認有福的馬利亞為上帝之母——而非那看來與這一切相牴觸的一種,即聶斯多留是因他那些有害之書
37:10
bris, quibus negans matrem Dei Mariam scandalizaveral audientes, odibilis erat suæ civitati ut in eam reverti non posset. Tamen ex abundanti constituamos reverentissimum.lbam non subaudiendum significasse, sed aperte dixisse, quod Nestorius odio erat quidem civitati suae et qui erant in ea excellentiori. bus, sed non tanquam hæreticus, magis autem propter alias causas, ut in cam reverti non posset; et defuisse nobis alia, quae jam diximus, et que multo plura dicemus, quibus convincentibus satis ostenderetur quod etiam hæc non ad excusandum Nestorium dicta essent: nunquid necesse erat eadem per se considerata qux finximus verba sic intelligere, ut excusatus in eis Nestorius videretur ?
—by which, denying Mary the Mother of God, he had scandalized his hearers—was odious to his city, so that he could not return to it. Yet, to argue out of abundance, let us suppose that the most reverend Ibas did not signify it by implication, but said openly that Nestorius was indeed hateful to his city and to the more eminent men in it, yet not as a heretic, but rather on account of other causes, so that he could not return to it; and that there were lacking to us the other arguments which we have already adduced, and many more which we shall adduce, by which, as they prove the point, it would be sufficiently shown that even these things were not said for the excusing of Nestorius: would it then be necessary to understand the very words we have feigned, considered in themselves, in such a way that Nestorius would seem to be excused in them?
——他藉這些書否認馬利亞為上帝之母,使聽者跌倒——才為其城所憎惡,以致不能回去。然而,姑且充分地論之,讓我們假設至尊的伊巴並非以暗示來表明,而是公開地說:聶斯多留固然為其城及城中更顯赫者所憎惡,但並非作為異端者,倒是因別的緣由,以致他不能回去;又假設我們缺乏我們已提出、以及將要提出的更多論證——這些論證一經證實,便足以表明連這些話也不是為開脫聶斯多留而說的:那麼,難道就必須把我們所虛擬的這些話,單就其本身來看,理解為其中聶斯多留似乎被開脫了嗎?
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Possent enim et. aliter intelligi, id est, quia -licet hæreticus Nestorius esset, sua tamen civitas hoc de illo non credidit, nec tanquam hæreticus, sed propter quod ci ob alias causas odio erat, in eam reverti non potuit.
For they could be understood otherwise also, namely, that although Nestorius was a heretic, yet his city did not believe this of him, and it was not as a heretic, but on account of his being hateful to it for other causes, that he could not return to it.
因為這些話也能有別的理解,即:雖然聶斯多留是異端者,他的城卻不相信他是如此,且他之所以不能回去,並非作為異端者,而是因他為別的緣由為那城所憎惡。
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Possent etiam sic intelligi, quia, licet hrerclicus Nestorius esset, et hoc etiam suae civitati videretur, non tamen propterea in eam reverti non potuit, cum ab Orientalibus et aliarum provinciarum episcopis non esset condemnatus, quos imperatores ejus causam judicate praeceperant, sed quod ei ob alias causas odio fuerite Tanquam si venerabilis Ibas, multum tribuens auctoritatis suo metropolitano et cæteris Orientalibus aliarumque provinciarum episcopis, qui non fuerant exspectati, diceret quia Nestorios, licet haereticus, non tamen ab eis condemnatus, posset reverti in civitatem, et eorum exspectare judicium, nisi ei propter alias causas odio esset.
They could also be understood thus: that although Nestorius was a heretic, and this even seemed so to his own city, yet not on that account could he not return to it, since he had not been condemned by the Eastern bishops and those of the other provinces—whom the emperors had ordered to judge his case—but because he was hateful to it for other causes. As though the venerable Ibas, ascribing much authority to his metropolitan and to the rest of the Eastern bishops and those of other provinces who had not been awaited, were saying that Nestorius, although a heretic, yet not condemned by them, could return to his city and await their judgment, were it not that he was hateful to it for other causes.
這些話也能這樣理解:雖然聶斯多留是異端者,這在他自己的城看來也是如此,然而他之所以不能回去,並非因此緣由,因為他並未被東方諸主教及其他行省的主教——皇帝曾命他們審判他的案件——所定罪,乃是因他為別的緣由為那城所憎惡。彷彿可敬的伊巴將很大的權威歸於他的都主教及其餘東方與其他行省的、未受等候的主教,乃說聶斯多留雖是異端者,卻未被他們定罪,本可回到他的城去,等候他們的審判,若非他為別的緣由為那城所憎惡。
37:13
Nam cum iidem Orientales et qui cum eis erant, tantum prævaluerint adversus Ephesinum concilium pro receptione capitulorum beati Cyrilli, ut eumdem beatum Cyrillum et Memnonem Ephesinum episcopum condemnarent, et imperatore jubente comes quoque sacrarum largitionum a eos in custodia traderet: quid esset præjudicii, si et hoc diceret Ibas, quia in Nestorio, quanquam hæretico, tamen ab Orientalibus non excluso, non illorum est considerata sententia, qui condemnati velut hæretici potuerunt in custodiam mitti; sed quia propter alias causas civitati suae fuit odibilis, ideo in eam reverti non potuit? Verum nihil horum in ejus epistola continetur, in qua hoc tantummodo dictum est:
For since these same Easterns and those who were with them so far prevailed against the council of Ephesus, on account of the reception of the chapters of blessed Cyril, that they condemned this same blessed Cyril and Memnon bishop of Ephesus, and, at the emperor's command, the count of the sacred largesses delivered them too into custody: what prejudice would it be, if Ibas also said this, that in the case of Nestorius—although a heretic, yet not excluded by the Easterns—the sentence of those was not weighed, who, being condemned as heretics, could be put into custody; but because he was hateful to his city for other causes, therefore he could not return to it? But none of these things is contained in his letter, in which this only was said:
因為這些東方人及與他們同在的人,為了接納有福的區利羅那些章,竟如此勝過了以弗所會議,以致他們定了這位有福的區利羅與以弗所主教麥姆農的罪,並且照皇帝之命,掌管聖庫的伯爵也把他們交付看管:那麼,倘若伊巴也說這話,又有何妨——即在聶斯多留一案中(他雖是異端者,卻未被東方人排斥),並未顧及那些人的裁決,那些人作為被定罪的異端者尚可被押入看管;乃是因他為別的緣由為其城所憎惡,所以才不能回去?然而他的書信中並不含有這些話中的任何一句,信中只說了這一句:
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Nestorius autem, quoniam suae civitati odio erat et qui erant in ea excellentioribus, illo reverti non potuit. De quo jam calumniosis respondimus amplius forte quam necessarium fuit.
«But Nestorius, since he was hateful to his own city and to those who were of higher rank in it, could not return thither.» Concerning which we have already answered the calumniators at greater length, perhaps, than was necessary.
「但聶斯多留,因他為自己的城以及城中那些尊貴者所憎惡,便不能回到那裡。」關於這話,我們已對那些誣陷者作了回答,所費篇幅或許超過了必要的程度。
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