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In Defence of the Three Chapters 59

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59:1
Inspiciamus autem ipsos Eutychianorum fautores, qui dicta in Ecclesiae pace quiescentium, quoniam obscorum aliquid in eis invenitur, damnari magis quam excusari volunt, utrum ita vigilanter cauti sint, ut in suis dictis atque conscriptis reprehendi nullatenus queant. Si enim tam circumspecti strat, ut in nullo deprehendantur offendere, tolerabile fortasse dicatur quod, sua sapientia freti, ad nos nostrique similes qui in multis effendimus, condescendere non dignantur. Verum quid agemus, quod nullos ab eis in aKa causa conditos libros audivimus, qoorum discussione irreprehensibilem eorum peritiam et pervigilem possimus probare cautelam ?
But let us examine these very abettors of the Eutychians, who, because something obscure is found in the words of those resting in the peace of the Church, want such words condemned rather than excused—whether they themselves are so vigilantly cautious that in their own words and writings they can in no way be reproved. For if they are so circumspect that they are caught offending in nothing, it might perhaps be called tolerable that, relying on their own wisdom, they do not deign to condescend to us and to those like us who offend in many things. But what shall we do, since we have heard of no books composed by them on any other cause, by the discussion of which we might be able to prove their skill irreproachable and their caution ever-watchful?
但讓我們察看歐迪奇派的這些幫兇罷。他們因為在那些安息於教會平安中之人的話裡發現了某些晦澀之處,便寧願這些話被定罪而非被辯解——讓我們看看他們自己是否如此警醒謹慎,以致在自己的言論和著作中絲毫無可指摘。因為他們若如此周密,以致在任何事上都不被發現有過失,那麼或許可以說情有可原:他們憑著自己的智慧,不屑俯就我們以及像我們這樣在許多事上有過失的人。但我們該怎麼辦呢?因為我們從未聽說他們在任何別的題目上著有書卷,使我們得以藉著討論這些書卷來證明他們的本領無可指責、他們的謹慎時刻警醒。
59:2
Placet ergo eis ut in hoc libro, quem communi ac diuturno tractatu in præjudicium sanctæ synodi scripserunt, sive scribi fecerunt, perfectam eorum nusquam culpabilem scientiam requiramus? Sed jam etsi non oinnes quos continet, quoniam aliud in hoc opere demonstrare suscepimus, multos tamen ex occasione prodidimus errores *, multa queque mendacia sibique contraria. Ubi et hoc docuimus quia, cum mendaciostudeant, nesciunt vel quomodo mentiantur, et quomodo per eamdem scientiam etiam vErum contra se aliquando loquantur. Si autem in hoc libro in quo subscripserunt, alienos errores, sive falsos, sive veros arguere intenti in tantis reprehensi sunt;
Is it their pleasure, then, that in this book which they wrote, or caused to be written, by common and long-continued effort to the prejudice of the holy synod, we should look for their perfect and nowhere blameworthy learning? But now, although not all whom it contains—since we have undertaken to show something else in this work—nevertheless we have exposed many of their errors as occasion offered, and many lies as well, and things contradictory to themselves. Here too we have taught that, while they zealously pursue lying, they do not even know how to lie, and how, by that same learning, they sometimes even speak the truth against themselves. But if, in this book in which they subscribed their names, intent on convicting the errors of others, whether false or true, they have been found at fault in so many things—
那麼,他們是否願意我們在這本書中尋找他們完美而毫無可責之處的學識呢?這書是他們以共同而長期的努力寫成、或使人寫成,目的在於損害這神聖會議。然而如今,雖然我們並未揭發書中所載的一切(因為我們在本作中所要證明的是別的事),卻仍隨機揭露了他們的許多錯誤,以及許多謊言和自相矛盾之處。在此我們也指出:他們既熱衷於說謊,卻連怎樣說謊都不知道,又怎樣藉著同樣的學識,有時竟說出對自己不利的真話。但他們若在這本親自署名的書中——他們本意是要駁斥別人的錯誤,無論真假——竟在這麼多事上被指出有過失,
59:3
qua fronte non dicam Theodori, sed cujuslibet hominis dicta culpare praesumunt? At erubescent isti judices 1 mortuorum, si per totum ipsum librum eorum consideremus inscitiam: et idcirco in ipsa tantum sententia, qua Theodorum cum suis dogmatibus damnaverunt, inspicere eam ac demonstrare proposui. Dixerunt enim, sicut narravimus: « Si quis non anathematizat Theodorum Mopsuestiae a, etejus dogmata, eosque qui aut ei similia sapuerunt, aut sapiunt, anathema sit. » In qua sententia intende, quæso, quot et quam magna vitia reprehendam. Primum est, quod eum contra sententiam Patrum et totius Ecclesiæ judicium, in cujus pace defunctus est, anathemati subdiderunt.
with what face do they presume to blame the words, I will not say of Theodore, but of any man whatsoever? But these judges of the dead will blush, if throughout that whole book of theirs we consider their ignorance; and therefore I have proposed to inspect and to demonstrate it in that one sentence alone by which they condemned Theodore together with his doctrines. For they said, as we have related: «If anyone does not anathematize Theodore of Mopsuestia and his doctrines, and those who either have held or do hold things similar to his, let him be anathema.» In this sentence consider, I pray, how many and how great faults I am about to reprove. The first is that they subjected him to anathema against the judgment of the Fathers and of the whole Church, in whose peace he died.
那麼,他們還有什麼臉面妄敢指責——我不說狄奧多若的話,而是任何人的話呢?但這些審判死者的人若被人察看他們那整本書中的無知,必要羞愧;因此我打算只在那一句話中察看並指明這無知,就是他們連同狄奧多若的教義一併將他定罪的那句話。因為他們如我們所述說的那樣說:「若有人不詛咒摩普綏提亞的狄奧多若及其教義,並那些曾持有或現今持有與他相似觀點的人,這人當受詛咒。」我請你細想這句話裡有多少、何等重大的弊端是我要加以指責的。第一是:他們違背眾教父的判斷以及他在其平安中辭世的整個教會的判斷,將他置於詛咒之下。
59:4
Secundum autem quod, condemnando omnes qui ei non dicunt anathema, memoratos quoque venerabiles Patres, et ipsam quae Theodoro communicavit Ecclesiam, atque omnes praesentes in corpore Christi fideles, qui sive quod in Ecclesiae pace vitam finierint, sive quod nec errores ejus nec nomen audierint, eum non anathematizant, decreverunt ut anatbema fierent: quod aperte contra justitiam et contra morem Ecclesiae factum esse jam diximus, nec ullum tale invenimus exemplum ubi anatthema facti sint, qui alicui hæretico, quem ignorare possunt, non dicunt anathema. Quod nec isti decernerent, nisi ad synodi Chalcedonensis injuriam, quae, cum apud se recitarentur ejus laudes, non ei dixerit anathema.
The second is that, by condemning all who do not pronounce anathema upon him, they decreed that the aforesaid venerable Fathers also, and that very Church which held communion with Theodore, and all the faithful now present in the body of Christ—who, whether because they ended their life in the peace of the Church, or because they have heard neither his errors nor his name, do not anathematize him—should become anathema. That this was done openly against justice and against the custom of the Church we have already said, nor do we find any such precedent where those have been made anathema who do not pronounce anathema upon some heretic whom they may well be ignorant of. And this not even these men would have decreed, were it not to the injury of the Council of Chalcedon, which, when his praises were recited before it, did not pronounce anathema upon him.
第二是:他們既定罪一切不詛咒他的人,就議決連上述可敬的眾教父、那曾與狄奧多若相通的教會本身、以及如今在基督身體中的眾信徒——這些人或因在教會的平安中結束生命,或因從未聽過他的錯謬與名字而不詛咒他——也都當受詛咒。我們已經說過,這分明是違背公義、違背教會慣例而行的;我們也找不到任何這樣的先例:有人因不詛咒某個他們很可能根本不知道的異端者,就被定為當受詛咒。這事連這些人也不會議決,若非為了傷害迦克墩會議——因為當有人在那會議前宣讀狄奧多若的稱讚時,它並未詛咒他。
59:5
Tertium vero est, quod sine ulla exceptione generaliter ejus dogmata et universos qui eis non dicunt anathema condemnantes, in quibus nec ipsi negant plurima recta esse, non solum quos supra memoravimus Patres, et alios praeteriti vel praesentis temporis innocentes, verum et ipsam catholicam fidem, cujus assertionibus omnem haeresem, testante Joanne et Domno Antiochenis atque orientali concilio, Tlieodorus expugnavit, et quam secundum Cyrillum, ut interim perhibent, magnifice adversus Arianos et Eunomianos asseruit, anathematizare procul dubio convincuntur.
The third is that, condemning generally and without any exception both his doctrines and all who do not pronounce anathema upon them—doctrines in which not even they themselves deny that very many things are correct—they are without doubt convicted of anathematizing not only those Fathers whom we mentioned above, and others innocent of past or present times, but the very catholic faith itself, by whose assertions Theodore (as John and Domnus of Antioch and the Eastern council testify) overthrew every heresy, and which, according to Cyril—as for the moment they themselves allege—he magnificently asserted against the Arians and Eunomians.
第三是:他們既普遍地、毫無例外地定罪他的教義以及一切不詛咒這些教義的人——而在這些教義中,連他們自己也不否認其中極多是正確的——便無疑地被證明是在詛咒:不僅是我們上面提到的那些教父,以及過去或現今其他無辜的人,更是在詛咒大公信仰本身。狄奧多若正是憑著大公信仰的這些主張(如安提阿的約翰、多努斯以及東方會議所作證的)推翻了一切異端;並且按西里爾所說(如他們此刻自己所宣稱的),他憑此信仰堂皇地駁倒了亞流派與歐諾米派。
59:6
Quartum est, quod contenti non fuerint illos tantum anathematizare qui similia sapiunt, sed iterum contra justitiam Ecclesiaeque regulam addiderunt, et illos qui similia 2 sapuerunt. Et quanquam Theodorum nihil male sapuisse probaverint, quantum tamen ad eos attinet, condemnaverunt omnes ab ipso, in quem illum incidisse putant, errore conversos; nihilque illis praestitit sua conversio, quod jam talia non sapiunt, quando et propter hoc damnantur, quod aliquando talia sapuerunt. Ubi quid agent de Martha et Maria sororibus Lazari, quce familiari devotione ipsi Domino, dum hic in carne degerel, adhæserum ? Et tamen utraque, id est prius Martha ac deinde Maria, legitur ei dixisse:
The fourth is that they were not content to anathematize only those who hold similar views, but again, against justice and the Church's rule, they added also those who have held similar views. And although they may have proved that Theodore held nothing amiss, yet, so far as concerns them, they have condemned all who were converted from the error into which they suppose he fell; and their conversion availed them nothing—the fact that they no longer hold such views—since they are condemned for this very reason, that at some time they did hold such views. Here what will they do about Martha and Mary, the sisters of Lazarus, who in familiar devotion clung to the Lord himself while he yet dwelt here in the flesh? And yet each of them—that is, Martha first and then Mary—is recorded to have said to him:
第四是:他們不滿足於只詛咒那些持相似觀點的人,竟又違背公義與教會的規矩,加上了那些曾持相似觀點的人。並且,縱使他們證明了狄奧多若毫無謬誤之處,然而就他們而言,他們卻定罪了一切從他們所臆斷他陷入的那謬誤中悔改歸正的人;這些人的悔改對他們毫無益處——他們既不再持那樣的觀點——因為他們正是為著這緣故被定罪:他們曾在某時持過那樣的觀點。在此,他們要如何處置拉撒路的姐妹馬大和馬利亞呢?她們在主仍在此以肉身居住之時,以親密的虔誠依附於主自己。然而她們二人——先是馬大,後是馬利亞——都被記載對他說:
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Domine, si fuisses hic, frater meus non fuisset mortuus (Joan. XI, 21,). Quae licet crederent quod ipse esset Filius ' Dei qui in mundum venisset, tamen non dicerent, si fuisses hic, si eum cognoscerent sicut Deum ubique esse praesentem. Eadem ergo sapuerunt quae dicitur sapuisse Theodorus, et cum Theodoro simul anathematizatae sunt. Et quantos vel eo tempore in Evangeliis et apostolicis scriptas tales fuisse cognovimus? quantos etiam nunc tales in grege fidelium, sola sanctorum mysteriorum participatione et simplici praeceptorum obedientia placentes Deo vidimus ? cum et ipsi primi pastores ejus apostoli sic aliquando sapuerint, quos omnes cum Theodoro vidimus in hoc anathemate condemnatos ?
Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died (John 11:21). Although they believed that he himself was the Son of God who had come into the world, nevertheless they would not have said, «if you had been here,» had they known him to be present everywhere as God. They therefore held the very view that Theodore is said to have held, and were anathematized together with Theodore. And how many at that time in the Gospels and apostolic writings do we know to have been such? How many even now do we see to be such in the flock of the faithful, who please God by the mere participation in the holy mysteries and by simple obedience to the precepts? Since even his very first shepherds, the apostles, at some time held such a view—all of whom we have seen condemned, together with Theodore, in this anathema?
主啊,你若早在這裡,我兄弟必不死(約十一21)。她們雖然相信他自己就是那降世為人的神之子,卻仍不會說「你若早在這裡」,倘若她們認識他乃是神、無處不在。所以她們所持的,正是人們所說狄奧多若所持的觀點,便連同狄奧多若一同受了詛咒。在那時,我們知道福音書與使徒著作中有多少這樣的人?甚至如今,在信徒群羊中,我們又見到多少這樣的人——他們僅憑參與聖奧秘、單純順服誡命而蒙神喜悅?既然連他最初的牧者、眾使徒,也曾在某時持這樣的觀點——而我們看見他們全都與狄奧多若一同在這詛咒中被定罪了?
59:8
Nam etsi dicantur Thomas et Philippus, qui aiuntOstende nobis Patrem, et sufficit nobis (Joan. xiv, 8), non hominem tantummodo credidisse Christum, sed Deum, quamvis Patre minorem aut separatum a Patre, propter quod etiam dictum est: Non creditis quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me eat (Ibid., 40)? similia procul dubio sapuerunt eis quae putatur sapuisse Tbeodorus. Non enim dissimilis aut minoris ignorantiæ fuit, vel minorem credidisse Deum, vel a Patre Filium separatum. Nisi forte sic nobis error Nestorianus displicet, ut placeat Arianus. Quomodolibet ergo sapuisse dicantur, aut eadem procul dubio aut similia sapuerunt.
For even if Thomas and Philip—who say, Show us the Father, and it suffices us (John 14:8)—be said to have believed Christ to be not merely a man but God, yet less than the Father or separated from the Father (for which reason it was even said to them: Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? [ibid. 10])—they without doubt held views similar to those Theodore is thought to have held. For it was no dissimilar nor lesser ignorance, either to have believed God to be less, or the Son to be separated from the Father. Unless perhaps the Nestorian error displeases us in such a way that the Arian pleases us. However they be said to have held their view, they held without doubt either the same or similar views.
因為即便多馬和腓力——他們說:將父顯給我們看,我們就知足了(約十四8)——被說成是相信基督不僅是人,更是神,只是小於父、或與父分離(為此甚至有話對他們說:你們不信我在父裡面、父在我裡面嗎?〔同上10〕)——他們無疑也持有與人們所認為狄奧多若所持相似的觀點。因為無論是相信神為較小、還是相信子與父分離,這都不是不相似、也不是較小的無知。除非歐迪奇派對涅斯多留的錯謬如此不滿,以致對亞流的錯謬反倒滿意。所以無論人說他們持何種觀點,他們無疑所持的,不是相同就是相似的觀點。
59:9
Pro hac ergo præcipiti et inconsiderata sententia sua respondeant qui tantummodo alienis calumniari sciunt, sua vero defendere nesciunt; et si quid possunt, ab istis vinculis' manifestae veritatis absolvant: et forte credimus quod acceperint potestatem ligandi eos qui super terram non sunt, quam nec apostoli acceperunt. Ecce quatuor magna vitia, non obscura, nec de aliquibus secretis educta, sed clara et manifesta, eos docuimus incurrisse. Quomodo igitur ille subtilis eorum intellectus in nocte obscurarum quaestionum elucubratis exeogitalionibus adversus aliena dicta pervigil, in suis obtusus inventus est et medio die lethargicus ?
Let them, then, answer for this rash and inconsiderate sentence of theirs—they who know only how to slander the things of others, but do not know how to defend their own; and let them, if they can, loose from these bonds of manifest truth: and perhaps we shall believe that they have received the power of binding those who are not upon the earth—a power which not even the apostles received. Behold, we have shown that they have fallen into four great faults, not obscure, nor drawn out from any hidden matters, but clear and manifest. How, then, was that subtle intellect of theirs—ever-watchful against the words of others by the lucubrations devised in the night of obscure questions—found dull in its own affairs, and lethargic at high noon?
那麼,就讓他們為自己這輕率失慮的判決負責罷——他們只知毀謗別人的言論,卻不知為自己的辯護;他們若能,就讓他們從這顯而易見之真理的束縛中脫身。或許我們會相信他們已領受了捆綁那些不在地上之人的權柄——這權柄連使徒也未曾領受。看哪,我們已指明他們陷入了四大過失,並非晦澀,也非從某些隱密之事中挖掘出來,而是清楚明白的。那麼,他們那敏銳的才智——在晦暗問題的夜裡,憑著苦思冥想的構思,時刻警醒地對付別人的言論——怎麼在自己的事上卻顯為遲鈍,在正午時分昏睡若失呢?
59:10
In quantis autem librorum voluminibus isti censorii mortuorum judices tantos et numero et magnitudine fecisse deprehenduntur errores? Nonne una brevisque sententia est, quae semel tincto calamo scribi potest: i Si quis non anathematiz at Theodorum Mopsuesliae, et rjus dogmata, eosque qui aut similia ei sapuerunt aut sapiunt, anathema sit r» Et in his paucissimis syllabis longo tempore meditatis, tam multi sapientes, et, quod est amplius, alienorum dictorum scrupulosissimi et calumniosissimi discussores, in ea ipsa calumniæ suæ sententia sic erraverunt, ut etiamsi vera forent quae in denotationem sanctae synodi de Theodoro jactant, non possent eorum erroribus comparari.
In how many volumes of books are these censorious judges of the dead caught having committed errors so great in number and in magnitude? Is it not one brief sentence, which can be written with one dip of the pen: «If anyone does not anathematize Theodore of Mopsuestia, and his doctrines, and those who either have held or do hold things similar to his, let him be anathema»? And in these very few syllables, pondered for a long time, so many wise men—and, what is more, the most scrupulous and most slanderous discussers of others' words—have so erred in that very sentence of their calumny that, even if the things they hurl against Theodore to the disparagement of the holy synod were true, they could not be compared with their own errors.
在多少卷書中,這些苛刻地審判死者的人被發現犯下了數量與份量都如此巨大的錯誤?這豈不是一句簡短的話、蘸一次墨就能寫成的嗎:「若有人不詛咒摩普綏提亞的狄奧多若及其教義,並那些曾持有或現今持有與他相似觀點的人,這人當受詛咒」?而在這寥寥幾個音節中——長時間反覆斟酌過的——這麼多有智慧的人,更要緊的是,這些最吹毛求疵、最善毀謗地評議別人言論的人,竟在他們這毀謗之語本身上如此謬誤,以致即便他們為貶損這神聖會議而向狄奧多若拋擲的話是真的,也無法與他們自己的錯誤相比。
59:11
Et audent isti discutere ac reprehendere illustris doctrinae viros, quorum sunt innumeri libri, qui non sine magnis et multis erroribus semel intinctum calamum scribendo fundere potuerunt? Illud etiam considerandum est, quod Theodorus, necdum Nestorianisapparentibus, in alios intendens, et oppugnantibus Synusiastis obvius, aliquam 1 a offensionem ad aliud pergentis transitu sermonis incurrit. isti vero, quod non immerito venia caret, longo pacis odio seduli et quieti, si tamen quieti, non solum multipliciter et graviter erraverunt, sed inter se ac tantos Patres, et universam quae Theodoro communicavit Ecclesiam, ipsos quoque apostolos, interposuerunt anathema.
And do these men dare to discuss and reprove men of illustrious learning, whose books are innumerable—men who could not pour out a single dipped pen in writing without great and many errors? This too must be considered: that Theodore, when the Nestorians had not yet appeared, intent upon others and meeting head-on the assaulting Synousiasts, in the transition of his discourse as it pressed on toward another point, fell into some offense. But these men—who, not undeservedly, lack pardon—at leisure and at ease through long hatred of peace, if indeed at ease, not only erred in manifold and grievous ways, but interposed an anathema between themselves and so many Fathers, and the whole Church that held communion with Theodore, and even the apostles themselves.
難道這些人竟敢評議並指責那些學識卓著之人嗎?這些人的書卷不計其數,他們在書寫時連蘸一次墨也不能傾瀉而不帶許多重大的錯誤。還有一事須加考量:狄奧多若是在涅斯多留派尚未出現之時,專心對付別人、迎面抵擋來犯的「同質合一派」,在其論述向另一論點推進的轉折中,偶然有所失言。但這些人——他們之所以不蒙赦免並非沒有道理——卻在長久仇恨平安之中安逸而閒適(若真算閒適的話),不僅以多種而嚴重的方式謬誤,更在自己與這麼多教父之間、與那曾與狄奧多若相通的整個教會之間、甚至與眾使徒之間,插入了一道詛咒。
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Quod ille in quibus abeisreprehenditur non fecit, qui nunc pro solo præjudicio synodi subanatbematecondemnatur. Unde si ante centum annos audax et aspcrum sanctis Patribus apparebat, ut anathema imponerent 2 dictis in pace Ecclesiae mortuorum, quanto nuncaudacius est atque asperius, ut non solum eorum dicta, quod constat olim prohibitum, sed personæ quoquo damnentur ? Et 3 Patres illi qui condemnare prohibebant Theodori et aliorum dicta,consultissime djcebant: Quis enim nostrum speret non defungi ? aut a quo non dictum est aliquid, quod alium possit movere ? caventes utique, ne tali exemplo ipsorum quoque dictis post mortem imponeretur anathema:
That which he, in the matters for which he is reproved by them, did not do—he who is now, for the sole prejudice of the synod, condemned under anathema. Hence, if a hundred years ago it appeared bold and harsh to the holy Fathers to impose an anathema upon the words of those who died in the peace of the Church, how much more boldly and harshly is it done now, that not only their words—which it is agreed was long ago forbidden—but their persons too should be condemned? And those Fathers who forbade condemning the words of Theodore and others said most prudently: For who among us hopes not to die? Or by whom has nothing been said that might offend another? They were taking care, surely, lest by such a precedent an anathema be imposed upon their own words too after death:
他在那些被他們指責的事上並未這樣行——他如今卻僅僅為著對會議的偏見而在詛咒之下被定罪。因此,倘若一百年前,眾聖教父覺得對那些在教會平安中辭世之人的話加以詛咒乃是膽大而苛刻的,那麼如今這事豈不更為膽大苛刻嗎——不僅他們的話(眾所周知,這早已被禁止),連他們的位格也被定罪?而那些禁止定罪狄奧多若及他人言論的教父極其審慎地說:我們中間誰指望自己不死呢?又有誰未曾說過可能冒犯別人的話呢?他們無疑是在小心提防,免得藉這樣的先例,連他們自己的話在死後也被加上詛咒:
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quantum nos metuere debemus exemplum posteris dare, quo non solum dicta post mortem dicentium, sed personas quoque condemnent ? Nam si Theodorus post tantos suae defunctionis annos detestandus creditur, qui non probatur correctioni restitisse dum viveret; si Theodorus condemnatur, qui neminem condemnavit in Ecclesiæ pace defunctutn; si Theodorus excluditur,qui non invenitur in Ecclesiæ præjudicium scripsisse aliquid, de quo ipsa conturbaretur Ecclesia: quid de nobis ngitur, si multis tumultuosae nostrae præsumptioni contradicentibus, non exemplum tantummodo, verum etiam causam posteris demus adversus nos talia praesumendi ?
how greatly ought we to fear to give posterity a precedent by which they may condemn not only the words of the speakers after their death, but their persons too? For if Theodore, after so many years since his death, is believed to be detestable—he who is not proved to have resisted correction while he lived; if Theodore is condemned—he who condemned no one who had died in the peace of the Church; if Theodore is excluded—he who is not found to have written anything to the prejudice of the Church, by which the Church herself might be troubled: what, then, will become of us, if, with many contradicting our tumultuous presumption, we give to posterity not only a precedent, but even a cause for presuming such things against us?
那麼,我們豈不該大大懼怕:免得我們給後世留下一個先例,使他們不僅在說話者死後定罪他們的話,連他們的位格也定罪?因為,若狄奧多若在他死後這麼多年之後竟被認為可憎——他並未被證明在世時抗拒勸正;若狄奧多若被定罪——他從未定罪過任何在教會平安中辭世的人;若狄奧多若被排斥——他並未被發現寫過任何損害教會、使教會本身受擾的東西:那麼我們又將如何呢?倘若在許多人反對我們這喧囂的擅斷之時,我們不僅給後世留下一個先例,更給了他們向我們作出這類擅斷的口實?
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si tamen dicenda videatur illa prdesumptio, et non magis præsumptionis digna reprehensio. An forte cuipiam videbitur indignum, ut qui in Theodori condemnatione, tot sanctos Patres, tot innocentes, tot placitas et familiares Christo personas, atque ipsos anathematizaverunt apostolos, ne tantum facinus maneat, ipsum potius cum suis condemnetur auctoribus• ? Corrigant ergo nimis profanum temeritatem suam aut, si nihil se putant corrigendum fecisse, facti rationem reddant, et non in alienorum reprehensione dictorum, sed potius in suorum defensione subtilitatem ingenii, de qua multum gloriantur, ostendant.
—if indeed that is to be called presumption, and not rather the just reproof of presumption. Or perhaps it will seem to someone unworthy that those who, in condemning Theodore, anathematized so many holy Fathers, so many innocent persons, so many persons pleasing to and intimate with Christ, and the apostles themselves—that, lest so great a crime remain, they themselves should rather be condemned together with their abettors? Let them, then, correct their all-too-profane temerity; or, if they think they have done nothing to be corrected, let them render an account of their deed, and let them display the subtlety of intellect of which they boast so much, not in the reproof of others' words, but rather in the defense of their own.
——若那竟可稱為擅斷,而非反倒當作對擅斷的公正斥責的話。或許有人會覺得這事不該:那些在定罪狄奧多若時,詛咒了這麼多聖潔的教父、這麼多無辜之人、這麼多蒙基督喜悅並與基督親密之人、甚至眾使徒的人——為免如此大的罪行存留,難道不該是他們自己連同他們的同謀一併被定罪嗎?那麼,就讓他們改正自己這極其褻瀆的妄為;或者,他們若認為自己沒有什麼當改正之處,就讓他們為自己的行為交賬,並讓他們把自己誇耀不已的才智之敏銳,不是用在指責別人的言論上,而是用在為自己辯護上。
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Hoc de vestra justitia petimus, ut si respondere tentaverint, ultra eis non liceat sub titulo vestri nominis sua 4 et profana conscribere: quia licet docentibus apostolis didicerimus quod Deo magis quam hominibus oporteat obedire, quantum tamen in nobis est optamus'et Deo obedire et hominibus, dum ea volunt et imperant homines quae contraria non sint obedientiae quam Dco debemus.
This we ask of your justice: that if they should attempt to answer, it be no longer permitted them to compose their own profane writings under the title of your name; because, although we have learned from the teaching of the apostles that we must obey God rather than men, yet, so far as in us lies, we desire to obey both God and men, so long as men will and command those things which are not contrary to the obedience we owe to God.
這是我們向您的公義所求的:他們若試圖答辯,就不再容許他們在您名號的名義之下撰寫自己那些褻瀆的文字;因為,雖然我們從使徒的教訓中學到,順從神不順從人是應當的,然而就我們所能而言,我們渴望既順從神也順從人——只要人所願、所命令的,並不與我們所當向神獻上的順服相違。
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