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Symposium & Fragments 2-16

Greek original · 9 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss

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2-16:1
Ἐπεὶ τοίνυν περὶ τῶν κακῶν ἐποιήσω τὸν λόγον, δεικνύναι βουλόμενος ὡς ἔστιν τὰ κακά, καὶ ὅτι τούτων οἱ ἄνθρωποι τυγχάνουσι ποιηταί, βραχύ τι πάλιν πυθέσθαι βούλομαι· πότερον οἱ ἂνθρωποι τὴν ἀφορμὴν ἀφ ἑαυτῶν λαμβάνοντες ἔχουσι, τουτέστιν αὐτοὶ τῆς τοιαύτης χρήσεως εὑρεταὶ γενόμενοι, τοιοῦτοι ὑπὸ θεοῦ γεγόνασιν, αὖ πάλιν ἕτερός τις ὑπάρχει εἰς τὰ τοιαῦτα τοὺς ἀνθρώπους παρορμῶν
Since, then, you have spoken concerning evils, wishing to show that evils exist and that men are the makers of them, I wish to inquire again briefly: whether men possess the impulse from themselves—that is, whether they themselves have become the inventors of such a use—or whether they have become such by God, or whether again there is some other one who incites men toward such things.
既然你已論到了眾惡,要顯明惡是存在的,並且人是惡的製造者,我願再簡短地查問一事:究竟人是從自己裏面得著那衝動的——就是說,他們自己成了這種使用的發明者——還是他們乃是被神造成這樣的,抑或又另有某一位激動人去行這等事?
2-16:2
ΟΡΘΟΔ. Πρὸς μὲν τοῦ θεοῦ τοὺς ἀνθρώπους τοιούτους γεγονέναι νέναι οὔτι μοι δοκεῖ λέγειν· αὐτεξούσιον δὲ τὸν πρῶτον ἄνθρωπον γεγονέναι λέγω, τουτέστιν ἐλεύθερον, ἀφ οὖ καὶ οἱ διάδοχοι τοῦ γένους τὴν ὁμοίαν ἐλευθερίαν ἐκληρώσαντο. φημὶ τοιγαροῦν ἐλεύθερον γεγονέναι τὸν ἄνθρωπον, δουλεύοντα δὲ αὐτὸν βούλεται·
ORTHODOX: That men have been made such by God does not seem to me to be a thing one should say. Rather I say that the first man was made self-determining—that is, free—from whom the successors of the race also inherited the like freedom. I declare, therefore, that man was made free, yet serving whomever he wills.
正統者說:人乃是被神造成這樣的——這話我看不應當說。我倒要說,頭一個人是被造為有自主之權的,就是自由的;他的後裔,這族類的繼承者,也照樣承受了相同的自由。所以我宣告:人受造是自由的,卻服事他所願意服事的。
2-16:3
τοῦτο γὰρ αὐτῷ καὶ μέγιστον πρὸς τοῦ θεοῦ κεχαρίσθαι λέγω. [ὅτι] τὰ μὲν γὰρ ἄλλα πάντα ἀνάγκῃ δουλεύει τῷ θείῳ προστάγματι· ἐάν τε γὰρ οὐρανὸν εἴπῃς, ἔστηκε φέρων τὸν δεσπότην, οὐ μετακινούμενος τοῦ ὡρισμένου τόπου· καὶ ἐάν τε περὶ ἡλίου τὸν λόγον ποιεῖσθαι θέλῃς, ἐκτελεῖ οὗτος τὴν ὡρισμένην κίνησιν, οὐ παραιτούμενος τὸν δρόμον, ἀλλὰ ἀνάγκῃ τινὶ δουλεύων τῷ δεσπότῃ. καὶ γῆν ὁμοίως πεπηγυῖαν ὁρᾷς καὶ φέρουσαν τὸ πρόσταγμα τοῦ κεκελευκότος
For this, I say, has been granted to him by God as the greatest gift. For all other things serve the divine command of necessity: for if you name the heaven, it stands bearing its Master, not moving from its appointed place; and if you wish to speak of the sun, it accomplishes its appointed motion, not declining its course, but serving the Master by a certain necessity. And likewise you see the earth fixed fast and carrying out the command of the One who ordered it.
因為我說,這乃是神所賜給他、最大的恩賜。因為其餘的萬物都是出於必然來服事那神聖的命令:你若提到諸天,它站立著托負它的主宰,不離開所指定的位置;你若願意論到太陽,它就完成所指定的運行,不推辭它的路程,乃是出於某種必然來服事那主宰。你也照樣看見大地堅立不動,遵行那發命者的命令。
2-16:4
ὁμοίως δὲ καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἀνάγκῃ δουλεύει τῷ πεποιηκότι. οὐδ ὁπότερον αὐτῶν δυνάμενον ἕτερόν τι παρὰ τὸ εἰς γέγονεν ποιεῖν. διόπερ οὐκ ἐπαινοῦμεν ταῦτα οὕτω πειθόμενα τῷ δεσπότῃ, οὐδέ τις αὐτοῖς ἀπόκειται κρείττων ἐλπίς, ὅτι τὸ προσταχθὲν ἄκοντες ἐφύλαξαν
And in like manner the other things too serve their Maker of necessity, none of them being able to do anything other than that for which it was made. Therefore we do not praise these things for thus obeying their Master, nor is any better hope laid up for them, because they kept the command unwillingly.
其餘的萬物也照樣出於必然來服事那造它們的主,它們中沒有一個能行那超出自己受造目的之外的事。因此,我們並不因這些物如此順從它們的主宰而稱讚它們,也沒有什麼更美的盼望為它們存留,因為它們是不情願地遵守那命令的。
2-16:5
ἄνθρωπος δὲ τὴν βούλεται πείθεσθαι προσέλαβεν ἐξουσίαν ἑαυτὸν δουλαγωγῶν, οὐκ ἀνάγκῃ τῆς φύσεως κρατούμενος, οὐδὲ τῆς δυνάμεως ἀφαιρούμενος· ὅπερ αὐτῷ τῶν κρειττόνων ἕνεκα κεχαρίσθαι φημί, ἵνα τι πλεῖον ὧν ἔχει προσλάβῃ παρὰ τοῦ κρείττονος, ὅπερ αὐτῷ ἐκ τῆς ὑπακοῆς προσγίνεται καὶ ὡς ὀφειλὴν ἀπαιτεῖ παρὰ τοῦ πεποιηκότος
But man received the authority to obey whomever he wills, bringing himself into servitude—not being overpowered by the necessity of nature, nor being deprived of his power. This, I say, has been granted to him for the sake of better things, that he might receive from the Greater One something more than what he has; and this comes to him from his obedience, and he demands it as a debt due from his Maker.
但人卻領受了權柄,可以順從他所願意順從的,使自己作了奴僕——他既不被本性的必然所轄制,也不被剝奪自己的能力。我說,這乃是為著更美的事賜給他的,叫他可以從那至高者領受比他已有的更多之物;這是從他的順從而臨到他的,他也可以向那造他的主索取,如同索取所欠的債一般。
2-16:6
οὐ γὰρ ἐπὶ βλάβῃ οὕτω γεγονέναι τὸν ἄνθρωπον φημί, ἕνεκα δὲ τῶν κρειττόνων. εἰ γὰρ ὡς ἕν τι γέγονεν τῶν στοιχείων τῶν ὁμοίως ἀνάγκῃ δουλευόντων θεῷ, οὐκέτι μισθὸν ἄξιον τῆς προαιρέσεως λαμβάνει, ἀλλ ὥσπερ ὄργανον ἂν ἦν τοῦ δημιουργοῦ,.. τὴν ἐφ οἷς οὐ καλῶς ἔπραξεν ἀλόγως μέμψιν ὑπομένων· τούτων γὰρ αἴτιος ἦν χρώμενος. ἀλλ οὐδὲ τὸ κρεῖττον ἄνθρωπος ἠπίστατο, μηδὲν ἕτερον εἰδώς, ἀλλ ἐκεῖνο μόνον εἰς πέφυκεν εἶναι
For I say that man was not made thus for his harm, but for the sake of better things. For if he had been made as one of the elements, or of those things that likewise serve God of necessity, he would no longer receive a reward worthy of free choice, but would be like an instrument of the Craftsman, irrationally bearing the blame for whatever was not done well; for the user of it would be the cause of these. Moreover, man would not even have known the better, knowing nothing else but that one thing for which he was made.
因為我說,人受造成這樣,並非為叫他受害,乃是為著更美的事。因為他若是受造如同諸元素之一,或如那些照樣出於必然服事神的物,他就不再領受配得起自由抉擇的賞賜了,反倒像那匠人手中的器具一般,無理地擔當那未行美善之事的責備;因為這些事的緣由乃在於那使用器具的人。並且,人也不會認識那更美的,因他除了那一件他受造的本分之外,別無所知。
2-16:7
φημὶ τοιγαροῦν τὸν θεὸν οὕτω τὸν ἄνθρωπον τιμῆσαι προαιρούμενον καὶ τῶν κρειττόνων ἐπιστήμονα γίνεσθαι, τὴν ἐξουσίαν αὐτῷ τοῦ δύνασθαι ποιεῖνἃ βούλεται δεδωκέναι, καὶ τὴν ἐξουσίαν αὐτοῦ εἰς κρεῖττον <τρέπειν> παραινεῖν, οὐκ ἀφαιρούμενον πάλιν τὸ αὐτεξούσιον, ἀλλὰ τὸ κρεῖττον μηνύειν θέλοντα. τὸ μὲν γὰρ δύνασθαι πάρεστιν αὐτῷ, κἂν τὴν ἐντολὴν λαμβάνῃ, τὴν δὲ τοῦ δύνασθαι προαίρεσιν εἰς τὸ κρεῖττον τρέπει θεὸς παραινεῖ
I declare, therefore, that God, choosing thus to honour man and to make him knowing of the better things, gave him the authority to be able to do what he wills, and exhorts him to turn his authority toward the better—not again taking away his self-determination, but wishing to point out the better. For the power to act is present with him, even when he receives the commandment, but God exhorts and turns the choice of that power toward the better.
所以我宣告:神既揀選要這樣尊重人,並使他成為認識那更美之事的,就賜給他權柄,能行他所願意行的,又勸勉他將他的權柄轉向更美的——並非再奪去他的自主之權,乃是願意指明那更美的。因為那行事的能力與他同在,連他領受誡命的時候也是如此;惟有神勸勉、又將那能力的抉擇轉向那更美的。
2-16:8
ὥσπερ γὰρ πατὴρ παιδὶ παραινεῖ, ἐξουσίαν ἔχοντι ἐκμανθάνειν τὰ μαθήματα καὶ <μὴ μανθάνειν>, μᾶλλον ἔχεσθαι τῶν μαθημάτων, ὅτι κρεῖττον τοῦτο μηνύων, οὐ τὴν τοῦ δύνασθαι τοῦ παιδὸς ἐξουσίαν ἀφαιρεῖ, κἂν μὴ ἑκὼν μανθάνειν βούληται, οὕτω μοι καὶ τὸν θεὸν οὐ δοκεῖ προτρέποντα τὸν ἄνθρωπον πείθεσθαι τοῖς προστάγμασιν ἀφαιρεῖν αὐτοῦ τὴν ἐξουσίαν τῆς προαιρέσεως, τοῦ δύνασθαι καὶ μὴ ὑπακούειν τοῖς προστάγμασιν
For just as a father exhorts a son who has the authority both to learn his lessons and not to learn, to cleave rather to his lessons, pointing out that this is better—and does not take away the son's authority to be able to do otherwise, even if he is unwilling to learn—so it seems to me that God too, in urging man to obey His commands, does not take away his authority of free choice, the power both to obey and not to obey His commands.
因為正如父親勸勉兒子——這兒子既有權柄去學習功課,也有權柄不學——叫他寧可專心於功課,指明這是更美的,卻並不奪去這兒子能行別樣之事的權柄,連他不願學習時也是如此;照樣,我看神在催促人順從祂的命令時,也並不奪去他自由抉擇的權柄,就是那能順從、也能不順從祂命令的能力。
2-16:9
καὶ γὰρ τὴν ἀρχὴν τὸ οὕτως παραινεῖν ὅτι μὴ ἀφεῖλεν τὴν ἐξουσίαν μηνύει. προστάττει δέ, ἵνα τῶν κρειττόνων ἂνθρωπος ἀπολαύειν δυνηθῇ· τοῦτο γὰρ ἕπεται τῷ πεισθῆναι τῷ τοῦ θεοῦ προστάγματι. ὥστε οὐχ ἵνα τὴν ἐξουσίαν ἣν ἔδωκεν ἀφέλῃ προστάττειν βούλεται, ἀλλ ἵνα κρεῖττον δωρήσηται ὡς ἀξίῳ μειζόνων τῦχειν, ἀνθ ὧν ὑπήκουσεν τῷ θεῷ καὶ τὴν τοῦ μὴ ὑπακούειν ἐξουσίαν ἔχων
For in the very beginning, that He exhorts in this way shows that He did not take away the authority. He commands, in order that man may be able to enjoy the better things; for this follows upon obeying the command of God. So that He does not wish to command in order to take away the authority He gave, but in order to bestow something better, as upon one worthy to obtain greater things, in return for his having obeyed God while yet possessing the authority not to obey.
因為從起初,神既這樣勸勉,就顯明祂並未奪去那權柄。祂發出命令,乃是要叫人能享受那更美的事;因為這正是順從神的命令所帶來的結果。可見祂並非為要奪去祂所賜的權柄而發命,乃是為要賜下更美的,待他如同配得更大之事的人,這是因他在仍握有不順從之權柄的同時,卻順從了神。
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