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Apologies & Dialogue 3-1

Greek original · 6 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss

← ch. 2-15ch. 3-2 →
3-1:1
Περιπατοῦντί μοι ἕωθεν ἐν τοῖς τοῦ ξυστοῦ περιπάτοις συναντήσας τις μετὰ καὶ ἄλλων· Φιλόσοφε, χαῖρε, ἔφη. Καὶ ἅμα εἰπὼν τοῦτο ἐπιστραφεὶς συμπεριεπάτει μοι· συνεπέστρεφονδ αὐτῷ καὶ οἱ φίλοι αὐτοῦ. Κἀγὼ ἔμπαλιν προσαγορεύσας αὐτόν· Τί μάλιστα : ἔφην
As I was walking early one morning in the colonnades of the gymnasium, a certain man, together with others, met me and said, "Hail, philosopher." And having said this, he turned and walked along with me; his friends also turned with him. And I in turn greeted him and said, "What is it especially?"
一日清早,我在運動場的廊柱間散步,有一個人同著別人迎面遇見我,說:「哲學家,你好。」說了這話,他便轉過身來與我同行;他的朋友們也與他一同轉了過來。我也回禮問候他,說:「有甚麼特別的事麼?」
3-1:2
δέ· Ἐδιδάχθην ἐν Ἄργει. φησίν, ὑπὸ Κορίνθου τοῦ Σωκρατικοῦ ὅτι οὐ δεῖ καταφρονεῖν οὐδὲ ἀμελεῖν τῶν περικειμένων τόδε τὸ σχῆμα, ἀλλ ἐκ παντὸς φιλοφρονεῖσθαι προσομιλεῖν τε αὐτοῖς, εἴ τι ὄφελος ἐκ τῆς συνουσίας γένοιτο αὐτῷ ἐκείνῳ ἐμοί. Ἀμφοτέροις δὲ ἀγαθόν ἐστι, κἂν θάτεροςᾖ ὠφελημένος. Τούτου οὖν χάριν, ὅταν ἴδω τινὰ ὲν τοιούτῳ σχήματι, ἀσμένως αὐτῷ προσέρχομαι, σέ τε κατὰ τὰ αὐτὰ ἡδέως νῦν προσεῖπον, οὗτοί τε συνεφέπονταί μοι, προσδοκῶντες καὶ αὐτοὶ ἀκούσεσθαί τι χρηστὸν ἐκ σοῦ
And he said, "I was taught at Argos by Corinthus the Socratic that one ought not to despise nor neglect those who wear this garb, but in every way to treat them kindly and to converse with them, in case some benefit should come from the association either to that person himself or to me. And it is good for both, even if only one of the two is benefited. For this reason, then, whenever I see anyone in such a garb, I gladly approach him; and so now too I have addressed you with pleasure, and these men accompany me, expecting that they too will hear something useful from you."
他說:「我在亞各斯受教於那蘇格拉底派的科林托斯,學到人不當藐視、也不當忽略那些穿這種裝束的人,乃當盡力以善意待他們,與他們交談,看是否能從這交往中得著甚麼益處,無論對那人自己或對我。這對二者都是好事,即使只有一方得了益處。所以每逢我看見有人作這樣的裝束,便欣然前去與他親近;如今我也是高興地向你問安,這些人也陪著我來,盼望他們也能從你聽到甚麼有益的話。」
3-1:3
Τίς δὲ σύ ἐσσι, φέριστε βροτῶν : Οὕτως προσπαίζων αὐτῷ ἔλεγον. δὲ καὶ τοὔνομά μοι καὶ τὸ γένος ἐξεῖπεν ἁπλῶς. Τρύφων, φησί, καλοῦμαι· εἰμὶ δὲ Ἑβραῖος ἐκ περιτομῆς. φυγὼν τὸν νῦν γενόμενον πόλεμον, ἐν τῇ Ἑλλάδι καὶ τῇ Κορίνθῳ τὰ πολλὰ διάγων. Καὶ τί ἄν, ἔφην ἐγώ, τοσοῦτον ἐκ φιλοσοφίας σύτ ἄν ὠφεληθείης, ὅσον παρὰ τοῦ σοῦ νομοθέτου καὶ τῶν προφητῶν; Τί γάρ; Οὐχ οἱ φιλόσοφοι περὶ θεοῦ τὸν ἅπαντα ποιοῦνται λόγον, ἐκεῖνος ἔλεγε, καὶ περὶ μοναρχίας αὐτοῖς καὶ προνοίας αἱ ζητήσεις γίνονται ἑκάστοτε; οὐ τοῦτο ἔργον ἐστὶ φιλοσοφίας, ἐξετάζειν περὶ τοῦ θείου
"And who are you, most excellent of mortals?" Thus I said, jesting with him. And he told me both his name and his lineage plainly. "Trypho," he said, "is my name; I am a Hebrew of the circumcision, a refugee from the war that has now taken place, spending most of my time in Greece and in Corinth." "And what," said I, "could you gain so much from philosophy as from your own lawgiver and the prophets?" "Why," said he, "do not the philosophers make all their discourse about God, and are not their inquiries continually about monarchy and providence? Or is this not the task of philosophy, to inquire about the divine?"
「至善的世人哪,你是誰呢?」我這樣戲謔地對他說。他便將自己的名字與出身坦白地告訴了我。他說:「我名叫特來弗;我是受過割禮的希伯來人,因如今所發生的戰爭而逃難,大半時間住在希臘和哥林多。」我說:「但你從哲學所能得的益處,怎能及得上從你自己的立法者和眾先知所得的呢?」他說:「怎麼會呢?哲學家豈不是把他們一切的論說都用在論神上麼?他們豈不是時常探究獨一神權與神的眷佑麼?探究有關神之事,豈不正是哲學的本分麼?」
3-1:4
Ναί, ἔφην, οὕτω καὶ ἡμεῖς δεδοξάκαμεν. Ἀλλ οἱ πλεῖστοι οὐδὲ τούτου πεφροντίκασιν. εἴτε εἶς εἴτε καὶ πλείους εἰσὶ θεοί, καὶ εἴτε προνοοῦσιν ἡμῶν ἑκάστου εἴτε καὶ οὕ, ὡς μηδὲν πρὸς εὐδαιμονίαν τῆς γνώσεως ταύτης συντελούσης· ἀλλὰ καὶ ἡμᾶς ἐπιχειροῦσι πείθειν ὡς τοῦ μὲν σύμπαντος καὶ αὐτῶν τῶν γενῶν καὶ εἰδῶν ἐπιμελεῖται θεός, ἐμοῦ δὲ καὶ σοῦ οὐκ ἔτι καὶ τοῦ καθ ἕκαστα, ἐπεὶ οὐδ ἂν ηὐχόμεθα αὐτῷ δι ὅλης νυκτὸς καὶ ἡμέρας
"Yes," said I, "so we too have held. But most of them have not even given thought to this—whether there is one God or several, and whether he exercises providence over each one of us or not—as though this knowledge contributed nothing to happiness; nay, they even attempt to persuade us that God cares for the universe as a whole, and for the genera and species themselves, but no longer for me and you and the individual, since otherwise we would not pray to him through the whole night and day."
我說:「是的,我們也是這樣認為。但他們大多數人連這個都不曾思想過——究竟有一位神還是有多位神,又祂是否眷顧我們各人——彷彿這知識對福樂毫無貢獻;不但如此,他們還試圖說服我們:神顧念那作為整體的宇宙,並顧念各類各種本身,卻不再顧念我和你並各個個體,否則我們便不會晝夜不住地向祂禱告了。」
3-1:5
Τοῦτο δὲ ὅπη αὐτοῖς τελευτᾷ, οὐ χαλεπὸν συννοῆσαι· ἄδεια γὰρ καὶ ἐλευθερία λέγειν καὶ ἕπεσθαι τοῖς δοξάζουσι ταῦτα, ποιεῖν τε τι βούλονται καὶ λέγειν, μήτε κόλασιν φοβουμένοις μήτε ἀγαθὸν ἐλπίζουσί τι ἐκ θεοῦ. Πῶς γάρ; Οἵ γε ἀεὶ ταὐτὰ ἔσεσθαι λέγουσι, καὶ ἔτι ἐμὲ καὶ σὲ ἔμπαλιν βιώσεσθαι ὁμοίως, μήτε κρείττονας μήτε χείρους γεγονότας. Ἄλλοι δέ τινες, ὑποστησάμενοι ἀθάνατον καὶ ἀσώματον τὴν ψυχήν, οὔτε κακόν τι δράσαντες ἡγοῦνται δώσειν δίκην (ἀπαθὲς γὰρ τὸ ἀσώματον), οὔτε, ἀθανάτου αὐτῆς ὑπαρχούσης, δέονταί τι τοῦ θεοῦ ἔτι
"But where this ends up for them is not hard to perceive: for license and freedom follow for those who hold these opinions, to say and do whatever they wish, fearing no punishment nor hoping for any good from God. For how could it be otherwise? They say that the same things will always be, and moreover that you and I will live again in like manner, having become neither better nor worse. And certain others, having postulated that the soul is immortal and incorporeal, think that they will pay no penalty even if they have done some evil (for the incorporeal is impassible), and that, since it is immortal, they have no further need of God."
「但這在他們身上的結局如何,並不難看出:因為凡持這些意見的人,便有放縱與自由隨之而來,可隨意說、隨意行任何事,既不懼怕刑罰,也不指望從神得甚麼好處。怎能不是這樣呢?他們既說萬事必永遠如此,又說你我必照樣再活,既不更好也不更壞。還有另一些人,假定魂是不死、無形的,便以為即使行了甚麼惡也不必受罰(因為無形之物是不受影響的),又以為魂既是不死的,便不再需要神了。」
3-1:6
Καὶ ὅς ἀστεῖον ὑπομειδιάσας· Σὺ δὲ πῶς, ἔφη, περὶ τούτων φρονεῖς καὶ τίνα γνώμην περὶ θεοῦ ἔχεις καὶ τίς σὴ φιλοσοφία, εἰπὲ ἡμὶν
And he, smiling pleasantly, said, "But you—how do you think about these things, and what opinion do you hold concerning God, and what is your philosophy? Tell us."
他便和藹地微笑著說:「但你呢——你對這些事怎麼想?你對神持甚麼看法?你的哲學又是甚麼?請告訴我們。」
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