Apologies & Dialogue 3-127

Greek original · 5 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss

3-127:1

Καὶ τὰ ἄλλα δὲ τοιαῦτά ἐστιν εἰρημένα τῷ νομοθέτῃ καὶ τοῖς προφήταις. Καὶ ἱκανῶς εἰρῆσθαί μοι ὑπολαμβάνω ὅτι, ὅταν μου ὁ θεὸς λέγῃ· Ἀνέβη ὁ θεὸς ἀπὸ Ἀβραάμ, ἢ Ἐλάλησε κύριος πρὸς Μωσῆν, καὶ Κατέβη κύριος τὸν πύργον ἰδεῖν ὅν ᾠκοδόμησαν οἱ υἱοὶ τῶν ἀνθρώπων, ἢ ὅτε Ἔκλεισεν ὁ θεὸς τὴν κιβωτὸν Νῶε ἔξωθεν, μὴ ἡγεῖσθε αὐτὸν τὸν ἀγέννητον θεὸν καταβεβηκέναι ἢ ἀναβεβηκέναι ποθέν

And the other things likewise are spoken thus by the Lawgiver and the prophets. And I suppose I have said enough that, when my God says, 'God went up from Abraham,' or 'The Lord spoke to Moses,' and 'The Lord came down to see the tower which the sons of men had built,' or when 'God shut the ark of Noah from outside,' you must not suppose that the unbegotten God Himself came down or went up from anywhere.

立法者和眾先知所說的其他事也是如此。我想我已說得夠多了，叫你們知道，當我的神說「神從亞伯拉罕那裡上去」，或「耶和華對摩西說話」，又「耶和華下來，要看人之子所建造的塔」，或「神從外面關了挪亞的方舟」時，你們不可以為那非受生的神自己從某處下來或上去。

3-127:2

Ὁ γὰρ ἄρρητος πατὴρ καὶ κύριος τῶν πάντων οὔτε ποι ἀφῖκται οὔτε περιπατεῖ οὔτε καθεύδει οὔτε ἀνίσταται, ἀλλ ἐν τῇ αὐτοῦ χώρᾳ, ὅπου ποτέ, μένει, ὀξὺ ὁρῶν καὶ ὀξὺ ἀκούων, οὐκ ὀφθαλμοῖς οὐδὲ ὠσὶν ἀλλὰ δυνάμει ἀλέκτῳ· καὶ πάντα ἐφορᾷ καὶ πάντα γινώσκει, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἡμῶν λέληθεν αὐτόν· οὔτε κινούμενος, ὁ τόπῳ τε ἀχώρητος καὶ τῷ κόσμῳ ὅλῳ ὅς γε ἦν καὶ πρὶν τὸν κόσμον γενέσθαι

For the ineffable Father and Lord of all things has neither come anywhere, nor walks, nor sleeps, nor rises, but remains in His own place, wherever that is, seeing keenly and hearing keenly, not with eyes nor ears, but by an indescribable power; and He surveys all things and knows all things, and none of us is hidden from Him; neither does He move, He who cannot be contained by place nor by the whole world, who indeed existed even before the world came to be.

因為那不可言喻的萬有之父和主，既未到任何地方去，也不行走、不睡覺、不起來，乃是住在祂自己的所在，無論那是何處，祂敏銳地看、敏銳地聽，不是用眼或耳，乃是用一種無可言喻的能力；祂鑒察萬事、知道萬事，我們中沒有一人能向祂隱藏；祂也不移動，祂是那不能被地方、也不能被全世界所容納的，祂在世界存在以先就已存在。

3-127:3

Πῶς ἄν οὖν οὗτος ἢ λαλήσειε πρὸς τινα ἢ ὀφθείη τινὶ ἢ ἐν ἐλαχίστῳ μέρει γῆς φανείη, ὁπότε γε οὐδὲ τὴν δόξαν τοῦ παρ αὐτοῦ πεμφθέντος ἴσχυεν ὁ λαὸς ἰδεῖν ἐν Σινᾶ, οὐδ αὐτὸς Μωσῆς ἴσχυσεν εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν σκηνήν, ἥν ἐποίησεν, εἰ μὲν ἐπληρώθη τῆς παρὰ τοῦ θεοῦ δόξης, οὐδὲ μὴν ὁ ἱερεὺς ὑπέμεινε κατενώπιον τοῦ ναοῦ στῆναι, ὅτε τὴν κιβωτὸν Σολομὼν εἰσεκόμισεν εἰς τὸν οἶκον τὸν ἐν Ἱερουσαλήμ., ὅν αὐτὸς ὁ Σολομὼν ᾠκοδομήκει

How, then, could this One either speak to anyone, or be seen by anyone, or appear in the smallest portion of the earth—when even the people at Sinai were not able to behold the glory of Him who was sent by Him, nor was Moses himself able to enter into the tent which he had made, when it was filled with the glory from God; nor indeed could the priest endure to stand before the temple, when Solomon brought the ark into the house in Jerusalem which Solomon himself had built?

那麼，這一位怎能或是對誰說話、或是被誰看見、或是在地的最小一隅顯現呢——既然連在西乃的百姓也不能仰望那從祂所差者的榮耀，連摩西自己也不能進入他所造的帳幕，當帳幕充滿從神而來的榮耀時；甚至祭司也不能站在殿前，當所羅門把約櫃抬進耶路撒冷他自己所建的殿時？

3-127:4

Οὔτε οὖν Ἀβραὰμ οὔτε Ἰσαὰκ οὔτε Ἰακὼβ οὔτε ἄλλος ἀνθρώπων εἶδε τὸν πατέρα καὶ ἄρρητον κύριον τῶν πάντων ἀπλῶς καὶ αὐτοῦ τοῦ Χριστοῦ, ἀλλ ἐκεῖνον τὸν κατὰ βουλὴν τὴν ἐκείνου καὶ θεὸν ὄντα, υἱὸν αὐτοῦ, καὶ ἄγγελον ἐκ τοῦ ὑπηρετεῖν τῇ γνώμῃ αὐτοῦ· ὅν καὶ ἄνθρωπον γεννηθῆναι διὰ τῆς παρθένου βεβούληται, ὅς καὶ πῦρ ποτε γέγονε τῇ πρὸς Μωσέα ὁμιλίᾳ τῇ ἀπὸ τῆς βάτου

Neither Abraham, then, nor Isaac, nor Jacob, nor any other of men saw the Father and ineffable Lord of all things absolutely, and of Christ Himself, but that One who, according to His will, is both God His Son, and Angel from His ministering to His purpose—whom also He has willed to be born as man through the virgin, who also once became fire in His converse with Moses from the bush.

那麼，無論亞伯拉罕、以撒、雅各，或其餘任何人，都未曾絕對地看見那萬有之父和不可言喻的主，連基督自己也是如此，乃是看見那一位——祂按父的旨意既是神、是父的兒子，又因服事父的旨意而為使者——就是父也定意要藉童女降生為人的，祂也曾在荊棘中與摩西交談時成為火。

3-127:5

Ἐπεὶ ἐὰν μὴ οὕτω νοήσωμεν τὰς γραφάς, συμβήσεται τὸν πατέρα καὶ κύριον τῶν ὅλων μὴ γεγενῆσθαι τότε ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς, ὅτε διὰ Μωσέως λέλεκται· Καὶ κύριος ἔβρεξεν ἐπὶ Σόδομα πῦρ καὶ θεῖον παρὰ κυρίου ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ· καὶ πάλιν διὰ Δαυῒδ ὅτε λέλεκται οὕτως· Ἄρατε πύλας οἱ ἄρχοντες ὑμῶν, καὶ ἐπάρθητε πύλαι αἰώνιοι, καὶ εἰσελεύσεται ὁ βασιλεὺς τῆς δόξης· καὶ πάλιν ὅτε φησί· Λέγει κύριος τῷ κυρίῳ μου· Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου, ἕως ἄν θῶ τοὺς ἐχθρούς σου ὑποπόδιον τῶν ποδῶν σου

For unless we understand the Scriptures thus, it will follow that the Father and Lord of all things was not then in the heavens, when it was said through Moses: 'And the Lord rained upon Sodom fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven'; and again through David, when it was thus said: 'Lift up your gates, you rulers, and be lifted up, you eternal gates, and the King of glory shall come in'; and again when He says: 'The Lord said to my Lord: Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.'

因為我們若不這樣領會聖經，就要得出這結論：當藉摩西說「耶和華從天上、從耶和華那裡，將火與硫磺降在所多瑪」時，萬有之父和主便不在天上了；又當藉大衛如此說「眾首領啊，你們要抬起頭來，永久的門戶啊，你們要被舉起，榮耀的王將要進來」時也是如此；再當祂說「耶和華對我主說：你坐在我的右邊，等我使你仇敵作你的腳凳」時也是如此。

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