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Apologies & Dialogue 3-49

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← ch. 3-48ch. 3-50 →
3-49:1
Καὶ Τρύφων· Ἐμοὶ μὲν δοκοῦσιν, εἶπεν, οἱ λέγοντες ἄνθρωπον γεγονέναι αὐτὸν καὶ κατ ἐκλογὴν κεχρῖσθαι καὶ Χριστὸν γεγονέναι πιθανώτερον ὑμῶν λέγειν, τῶν ταῦτα ἅπερ φῂς λεγόντων· καὶ γὰρ πάντες ἡμεῖς τὸν Χριστὸν ἄνθρωπον ἐξ ἀνθρώπων προσδοκῶμεν γενήσεσθαι, καὶ τὸν Ἡλίαν χρῖσαι αὐτὸν ἐλθόντα. Ἐὰν δὲ οὗτος φαίνηται ὢν Χριστός, ἄνθρωπον μὲν ἐξ ἀνθρώπων γενόμενον ἐκ παντὸς ἐπίστασθαι δεῖ. Ἐκ δὲ τοῦ μηδὲ Ἡλίαν ἐληλυθέναι οὐδὲ τοῦτον ἀποφαίνομαι εἶναι
And Trypho said: "It seems to me that those who say that He came to be a man and was anointed by election and became Christ speak more plausibly than you who say the things you say. For we all expect that the Christ will be a man born of men, and that Elijah, when he comes, will anoint Him. But if this man should appear to be the Christ, He must by all means be understood to be a man born of men; yet from the fact that Elijah has not even come, I declare that this man is not the Christ either."
特來弗說:「在我看來,那些說他成了人、因揀選受膏並成為基督的人,比你所說的這些話更為合理。因為我們眾人都盼望基督將是出於人而生的人,並且以利亞來的時候要膏立他。但若這人顯為是基督,就必定要被視為出於人而生的人;然而既然以利亞根本還沒有來,我便宣告這人也不是基督。」
3-49:2
Κἀγὼ πάλιν ἐπυθόμην αὐτοῦ· Οὐχὶ Ἡλίαν φησὶν λόγος διὰ Ζαχαρίου ἐλεύσεσθαι πρὸ τῆς ἡμέρας τῆς μεγάλης καὶ φοβερᾶς ταύτης τοῦ κυρίου; Κἀκεῖνος ἀπεκρίνατο· Μάλιστα. Ἐὰν οὖν λόγος ἀναγκάζῃ ὁμολογεῖν ὅτι δύο παρουσίαι τοῦ Χριστοῦ προεφητεύοντο γενησόμεναι, μία μέν. ἐνᾖ παθητός καὶ ἄτιμος καὶ ἀειδὴς φανήσεται, δὲ ἑτέρα, ἐν καὶ ἔνδοξος καὶ κριτὴς ἁπάντων ἐλεύσεται, ὡς καὶ ἐν πολλοῖς τοῖς προλελεγμένοις ἀποδέδεικται, οὐχὶ τῆς φοβερᾶς καὶ μεγάλης ἡμέρας τουτέστι τῆς δευτέρας παρουσίας αὐτοῦ, πρόοδον γενήσεσθαι τὸν Ἡλίαν νοήσομεν τὸν λόγον τοῦ θεοῦ κεκηρυχέναι; Μάλιστα, ἀπεκρίνατο
And I again asked him: "Does not the word declare, through Zechariah, that Elijah shall come before that great and fearful day of the Lord?" And he answered: "Certainly." "If, then, the word compels us to confess that two comings of Christ were prophesied as about to take place—one in which He shall appear as suffering and without honor and without form, and the other in which He shall come both glorious and as judge of all, as has also been shown in many of the passages quoted above—shall we not understand that the word of God has proclaimed that Elijah shall be the forerunner of the fearful and great day, that is, of His second coming?" "Certainly," he answered.
我又問他:「聖言豈不是藉撒迦利亞宣告,以利亞要在耶和華那大而可畏的日子以先來到嗎?」他回答說:「正是。」「那麼,若聖言迫使我們承認,基督的兩次降臨已被預言為將要發生——一次他要顯為受苦、無尊榮、無佳形美容,另一次他要降臨既有榮耀、又作萬人的審判者,正如前面所引的許多經文也已表明的——我們豈不該明白,神的話已經宣告以利亞要作那可畏而大的日子,就是他第二次降臨的先驅嗎?」他回答說:「正是。」
3-49:3
Καὶ ἡμέτερος οὖν κύριος, ἔφην, τοῦτο αὐτὸ ἐν τοῖς διδάγμασιν αὐτοῦ παρέδωκε γενησόμενον, εἰπὼν καὶ Ἡλίαν ἐλεύσεσθαι· καὶ ἡμεῖς τοῦτο ἐπιστάμεθα γενησόμενον, ὅταν μέλλῃ ἐν δόξῃ ἐξ οὐρανῶν παραγίνεσθαι ἡμέτερος κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός, οὗ καὶ τῆς πρώτης φανερώσεως κῆρυξ προῆλθε τὸ ἐν Ἡλίᾳ γενόμενον πνεῦμα τοῦ θεοῦ, ἐν Ἰωάννῃ, τῷ γενομένῳ ἐν τῷ γένει ὑμῶν προφήτῃ, μεθ ὃν οὐδεὶς ἕτερος λοιπὸν παρ ὑμῖν ἐφάνη προφήτης· ὅστις ἐπὶ τὸν Ἰορδάνην ποταμὸν καθεζόμενος ἐβόα· Ἐγὼ μὲν ὑμᾶς βαπτίζω ὲν ὕδατι εἰς μετάνοιαν· ἥξει δὲ ἰσχυρότερός μου, οὗ οὐκ εἰμὶ ἱκανὸς τὰ ὑποδήματα βαστάσαι· αὐτὸς ὑμᾶς βαπτίσει ἐν πνεύματι ἁγίῳ καὶ πυρί. Οὗ τὸ πτύον αὐτοῦ ἐν τῇ χειρὶ αὐτοῦ, καὶ διακαθαριεῖ τὴν ἅλωνα αὐτοῦ καὶ τὸν σῖτον συνάξει εἰς τὴν ἀποθήκην, τὸ δὲ ἄχυρον κατακαύσει πυρὶ ἀσβέστῳ
"Our Lord, then," I said, "delivered this very thing in His teachings as about to take place, saying that Elijah also shall come; and we know that this shall take place when our Lord Jesus Christ is about to come in glory from the heavens, of whose first manifestation the Spirit of God that was in Elijah went forth as herald, in John, who became a prophet among your race, after whom no other prophet appeared any more among you. He, sitting by the river Jordan, cried out: 'I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance; but there shall come One mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to bear; He shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He shall thoroughly cleanse His threshing floor and gather the wheat into the barn, but the chaff He shall burn with unquenchable fire.'"
「那麼我們的主,」我說,「在他的教訓中也把這同一件事傳講為將要發生的,說以利亞也要來;我們知道這事將在我們的主耶穌基督要從諸天帶著榮耀降臨時發生。那曾在以利亞身上的神的靈,作為他第一次顯現的傳報者先行而出,臨到約翰——他在你們同族中作了先知,在他以後你們中間再沒有別的先知出現。約翰坐在約旦河邊呼喊說:『我是用水給你們施洗,叫你們悔改;但那在我以後來的,能力比我更大,我就是給他提鞋也不配;他要用聖靈與火給你們施洗。他手裡拿著簸箕,要揚淨他的場,把麥子收進倉裡,把糠用不滅的火燒盡。』」
3-49:4
Καὶ τοῦτον αὐτὸν τὸν προφήτην συνεκεκλείκει βασιλεὺς ὑμῶν Ἡρώδης εἰς φυλακήν. καὶ γενεσίων ἡμέρας τελουμένης, ὀρχουμένης τῆς ἐξαδελφῆς αὐτοῦ εὐαρέστως αὐτῷ, εἶπεν αὐτῇ αἰτήσασθαι ἐὰν βούληται. Καὶ μήτηρ τῆς παιδὸς ὑπέβαλεν αὐτῇ αἰτήσασθαι τὴν κεφαλὴν Ἰωάννου τοῦ ἐν τῇ φυλακῇ· καὶ αἰτησάσης ἔπεμψε καὶ ἐπὶ πίνακι ἐνεχθῆναι τὴν κεφαλὴν Ἰωάννου ἐκέλευσε
"And this very prophet your king Herod shut up in prison; and when a birthday feast was being celebrated, and his niece danced in a way that pleased him, he told her to ask whatever she wished. And the mother of the girl prompted her to ask for the head of John who was in the prison; and when she had asked, he sent and ordered the head of John to be brought on a platter."
「你們的王希律把這位先知囚禁在監裡;當生日筵席舉行的時候,他的姪女跳舞使他喜悅,他就對她說,無論她求什麼都可以給她。女孩的母親慫恿她求監裡約翰的頭;她既求了,希律就差人去,吩咐把約翰的頭放在盤子裡端來。」
3-49:5
Διὸ καὶ ἡμέτερος Χριστὸς εἰρήκει ἐπὶ γῆς τότε τοῖς λέγουσι πρὸ τοῦ Χριστοῦ Ἡλίαν δεῖν ἐλθεῖν· Ἡλίας μὲν ἐλεύσεται καὶ ἀποκαταστήσει πάντα· λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι Ἡλίας ἤδη ἦλθε, καὶ οὐκ ἐπέγνωσαν αὐτόν, ἀλλ ἐποίησαν αὐτῷ ὅσα ἠθέλησαν. Καὶ γέγραπται ὅτι Τότε συνῆκαν οἱ μαθηταὶ ὅτι περὶ Ἰωάννου τοῦ βαπτιστοῦ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς
"Wherefore also our Christ, while on earth, said to those who were saying that Elijah must come before the Christ: 'Elijah indeed shall come and shall restore all things; but I say to you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished.' And it is written that 'Then the disciples understood that He spoke to them concerning John the Baptist.'"
「因此我們的基督在地上時,也對那些說以利亞必須在基督以先來的人說:『以利亞固然要來,並要復興萬事;但我告訴你們,以利亞已經來了,人卻不認識他,竟任意待他。』經上又記著說:『門徒這才明白他是指著施洗約翰對他們說的。』」
3-49:6
Καὶ Τρύφων· Καὶ τοῦτο παράδοξον λέγειν μοι δοκεῖς, ὅτι τὸ ἐν Ἡλίᾳ τοῦ θεοῦ γενόμενον προφητικὸν πνεῦμα καὶ ἐν Ἰωάννῃ γέγονε. Κἀγὼ πρὸς ταῦτα· Οὐ δοκεῖ σοι ἐπὶ Ἰησοῦν, τὸν τοῦ Ναυῆ, τὸν διαδεξάμενον τὴν λαοηγησίαν μετὰ Μωσέα. τὸ αὐτὸ γεγονέναι, ὅτε ἐρρέθη τῷ Μωσεῖ ἐπιθεῖναι τῷ Ἰησοῦ τὰς χεῖρας, εἰπόντος αὐτοῦ τοῦ θεοῦ· Κἀγὼ μεταθήσω ἀπὸ τοῦ πνεύματος τοῦ ἐν σοὶ ἐπ αὐτόν
And Trypho said: "This too seems to me a paradoxical thing to say—that the prophetic Spirit of God which was in Elijah came also to be in John." And to this I said: "Does it not seem to you that the same thing took place in the case of Joshua the son of Nun, who succeeded to the leadership of the people after Moses, when it was said to Moses to lay his hands upon Joshua, God Himself saying: 'And I will take of the Spirit that is in you and put it upon him'?"
特來弗說:「這在我看來也是荒謬之說——說那曾在以利亞身上的神的預言之靈,也臨到約翰身上。」對此我說:「在嫩的兒子約書亞身上——他在摩西以後接續領導百姓——你不覺得同樣的事也發生了嗎?那時神吩咐摩西按手在約書亞身上,神自己說:『我要把你身上的靈分賜給他。』」
3-49:7
Κἀκεῖνος· Μάλιστα. Ὡς οὖν, φημί. ἔτι ὄντος τότε ἐν ἀνθρώποις τοῦ Μωσέως, μετέθηκεν ἐπὶ τὸν Ἰησοῦν θεὸς ἀπὸ τοῦ ἐν Μωσεῖ πνεύματος, οὕτως καὶ ἀπὸ τοῦ Ἡλίου ἐπὶ τὸν Ἰωάννην ἐλθεῖν θεὸς δυνατὸς ἦν ποιῆσαι. ἵνα, ὥσπερ Χριστὸς τῇ πρώτῃ παρουσίᾳ ἄδοξος ἐφάνη, οὕτως καὶ τοῦ πνεύματος τοῦ ἐν Ἡλίᾳ πάντοτε καθαρεύοντος, ὡς τοῦ Χριστοῦ. ἄδοξος πρώτη παρουσία νοηθῇ
And he said: "Certainly." "As, then," I said, "while Moses was still among men at that time, God transferred to Joshua some of the Spirit that was in Moses, so also God was able to bring it from Elijah to John, in order that, just as the Christ at His first coming appeared without glory, so also—the Spirit that was in Elijah being always pure, like the Christ's—the first coming might be understood to be without glory."
他說:「正是。」「那麼,」我說,「正如當時摩西還在人間時,神把摩西身上的靈分了一些給約書亞,照樣神也能使那靈從以利亞臨到約翰,為要叫人明白,正如基督第一次降臨時顯為沒有榮耀,照樣——那曾在以利亞身上的靈始終是純潔的,如同基督的靈——第一次降臨也被理解為沒有榮耀的。」
3-49:8
Κρυφίᾳ γὰρ χειρὶ κύριος πολεμεῖν τὸν Ἀμαλὴκ εἴρηται, καὶ ὅτι ἔπεσεν Ἀμαλὴκ οὐκ ἀρνήσεσθε. Εἰ δὲ ἐν τῇ ἐνδόξῳ παρουσίᾳ τοῦ Χριστοῦ πολεμηθήσεσθαι τὸν Ἀμαλὴκ μόνον λέγεται, ποῖος καρπὸς ἔσται τοῦ λόγου. ὅς φησι· Κρυφίᾳ χειρὶ θεὸς πολεμεῖ τὸν Ἀμαλὴκ: Νοῆσαι δύνασθε ὅτι κρυφία δύναμις τοῦ θεοῦ γέγονε τῷ σταυρωθέντι Χριστῷ, ὃν καὶ τὰ δαιμόνια φρίσσει καὶ πᾶσαι ἁπλῶς αἱ ἀρχαὶ καὶ ἐξουσίαι τῆς γῆς
"For the Lord is said to war against Amalek with a hidden hand, and that Amalek fell you will not deny. But if it is said that Amalek shall be warred against only at the glorious coming of Christ, what fruit will there be of the word which says, 'With a hidden hand God wars against Amalek'? You can understand that the hidden power of God came to be in the crucified Christ, before whom even the demons tremble, and, in a word, all the principalities and powers of the earth."
「因為經上說,主用隱密的手攻擊亞瑪力,亞瑪力仆倒,這你們是不能否認的。但若說亞瑪力只在基督榮耀降臨時才被攻擊,那麼這句說『神用隱密的手攻擊亞瑪力』的話,又有什麼意義呢?你們可以明白,神隱密的能力臨到了那被釘十字架的基督,連鬼魔都在他面前戰兢,簡言之,地上一切的執政者和掌權者也都如此。」
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