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Apologies & Dialogue 3-128

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← ch. 3-127ch. 3-129 →
3-128:1
Καὶ ὅτι κύριος ὢν Χριστός, καὶ θεὸς θεοῦ υἱὸς ὑπάρχων, καὶ δυνάμει φαινόμενος πρότερον ὡς ἀνὴρ καὶ ἄγγελος, καὶ ἐν πυρὸς δόξῃ, ὡς ἐν τῇ βάτῳ, πέφανται καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς κρίσεως τῆς γεγενημένης ἐπὶ Σόδομα, ἀποδέδεικται ἐν πολλοῖς τοῖς εἰρημένοις. Ἀνιστόρουν δὲ πάλινἅ καὶ προέγραψα ἀπὸ τῆς Ἐξόδου πάντα, περί τε τῆς ὀπτασίας τῆς ἐπὶ τῆς βάτου καὶ τῆς ἐπικλήσεως τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ὀνόματος, καὶ ἐπέλεγον·
And that the Christ, being Lord, and God the Son of God, and formerly appearing in power as a man and an angel, and in the glory of fire as in the bush, was so manifested also at the judgement executed upon Sodom, has been demonstrated in many of the things said. And I again recounted all that I had also written down before from Exodus, concerning the vision at the bush and the calling upon the name of Jesus, and I added:
基督既是主、是神、是神的兒子,又從前以人和使者的能力顯現,並在火的榮耀中、如在荊棘中顯現,這一位在向所多瑪施行的審判中也照樣顯明了,這已在所說的許多事上得了證明。我又把我先前從出埃及記所記下的一切——關於荊棘中的異象和呼求耶穌之名——重述了一遍,並補充說:
3-128:2
Καὶ μὴ νομίζητε, οὗτοι, ὅτι περιττολογῶν ταῦτα λέγω πολλάκις, ἀλλ ἐπεὶ γινώσκω καί τινας προλέγειν ταῦτα βουλομένους, καὶ φάσκειν τὴν δύναμιν τὴν παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς τῶν ὅλων φανεῖσαν τῷ Μωσεῖἤ τῷ Ἀβραὰμ τῷ Ἰακὼβ ἄγγελον καλεῖσθαι ὲν τῇ πρὸς ἀνθρώπους προόδῳ, ἐπειδὴ δι αὐτῆς τὰ παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἀγγέλλεται, δόξαν δέ, ἐπειδή ἐν ἀχωρήτῳ ποτὲ φαντασίᾳ φαίνεται, ἄνδρα δέ ποτε καὶ ἄνθρωπον καλεῖσθαι, ἐπειδὴ ἐν μορφαῖς τοιαύταις σχηματιζόμενος φαίνεται αἷσπερ βούλεται πατήρ· καὶ λόγον καλοῦσιν, ἐπειδὴ καὶ τὰς παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς ὁμιλίας φέρει τοῖς ἀνθρώποις
And do not suppose, sirs, that I say these things repeatedly out of superfluity, but because I know that there are also some who wish to anticipate these things, and to assert that the power which appeared from the Father of all to Moses or to Abraham or to Jacob is called Angel in His coming forth to men, since through it the things from the Father are announced to men; and Glory, since He sometimes appears in an apparition that cannot be contained; and is sometimes called Man and human being, since He appears fashioned in such forms as the Father wills; and they call Him Word, since He bears the converses of the Father to men.
諸位,不要以為我多次說這些話是出於多餘,乃是因為我知道也有些人想要搶先解釋這些事,主張那從萬有之父向摩西、亞伯拉罕或雅各顯現的能力,在祂向人前來時被稱為使者,因為藉著祂,那從父而來的事被傳給人;又被稱為榮耀,因祂有時在無法容納的顯象中出現;有時又被稱為男人和人,因祂以父所願意的那種形狀顯現;他們又稱祂為道,因祂把父的話語帶給人。
3-128:3
Ἄτμητον δὲ καὶ ἀχώριστον τοῦ πατρὸς ταύτην τὴν δύναμιν ὑπάρχειν, ὅνπερ τρόπον τὸ τοῦ ἡλίου φασὶ φῶς ἐπὶ γῆς εἶναι ἄτμητον καὶ ἀχώριστον ὄντος τοῦ ἡλίου ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ· καί, ὅταν δύσῃ, συναποφέρεται τὸ φῶς· οὕτως πατήρ, ὅταν βούληται, λέγουσι, δύναμιν αὐτοῦ προπηδᾶν ποιεῖ, καί, ὅταν βούληται, πάλιν ἀναστέλλει εἰς ἑαυτόν. Κατὰ τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον καὶ τοὺς ἀγγέλους ποιεῖν αὐτὸν διδάσκουσιν
And they say that this power is indivisible and inseparable from the Father, in the manner that they say the light of the sun on earth is indivisible and inseparable, the sun being in heaven; and when it sets, the light is carried away with it; so the Father, when He wills, they say, makes His power leap forth, and when He wills, again withdraws it into Himself. And in this manner, they teach, He also makes the angels.
他們說這能力與父是不可分割、不可分離的,正如他們說地上的日光是不可分割、不可分離的,而日頭仍在天上;當日頭落下時,光也隨之消逝;照樣,他們說父隨意使祂的能力躍出,又隨意把它收回到自己裡面。他們教導說,祂照這樣的方式也造了眾天使。
3-128:4
Ἀλλ ὅτι μὲν οὗν εἰσὶν ἄγγελοι, καὶ ἀεὶ μένοντες καὶ μὴ ἀναλυόμενοι εἰς ἐκεῖνο ἐξ οὗπερ γεγόνασιν, ἀποδέδεικται· καὶ ὅτι δύναμις αὕτη, ἣν καὶ θεὸν καλεῖ προφητικὸς λόγος, ὡς διὰ πολλῶν ὡσαύτως ἀποδέδεικται, καὶ ἄγγελον, οὐχ ὡς τὸ τοῦ ἡλίου φῶς ὀνόματι μόνον ἀριθμεῖται, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀριθμῷ ἕτερόν τί ἐστι, καὶ ἐν τοῖς προειρημένοις διὰ βραχέων τὸν λόγον ἐξήτασα, εἰπὼν τὴν δύναμιν ταύτην γεγεννῆσθαι ἀπὸ τοῦ πατρός, δυνάμει καὶ βουλῇ αὐτοῦ, ἀλλ οὐ κατὰ ἀποτομήν, ὡς ἀπομεριζομένης τῆς τοῦ πατρὸς οὐσίας, ὁποῖα τὰ ἅλλα πάντα μεριζόμενα καὶ τεμνόμενα οὐ τὰ αὐτά ἐστινἅ καὶ πρὶν τμηθῆναι· καὶ παραδείγματος χάριν παρειλήφειν ὡς τὰ ἀπὸ πυρὸς ἀναπτόμενα πυρὰ ἕτερα ὁρῶμεν, οὐδὲν ἐλαττουμένου ἐκείνου, ἐξ οὗ ἀναφθῆναι πολλὰ δύνανται, ἀλλὰ ταὐτοῦ μένοντος
But that there are indeed angels, who ever remain and are not dissolved into that out of which they came to be, has been demonstrated; and that this power, which the prophetic word also calls God, as has likewise been demonstrated through many passages, and Angel, is not numbered merely in name, as the light of the sun, but is something other also in number, I examined in brief in what was said before, saying that this power was begotten from the Father by His power and will, yet not by severance, as though the Father's substance were divided—as all other things, when divided and cut, are not the same as they were before they were cut; and by way of example I had taken that we see other fires kindled from a fire, the one from which many can be kindled being in no way diminished, but remaining the same.
但確有天使,他們常存、不消解回到他們所由出之物,這已得了證明;並且那能力——先知的話也稱它為神,正如同樣藉許多經文所證明的,又稱為使者——並非僅在名義上被數算,如日光那樣,乃是在數目上也是另一個,這我在前面所說的中已簡略地查考過,說這能力是藉父的能力和旨意從父而生,卻不是藉切割,彷彿父的本質被分開——正如一切其他被分開、被切割之物,切割後便不再與切割前相同;我並曾舉例說,我們看見別的火從一團火點起,那能點起許多火的火並不因此減少,乃是仍舊不變。
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