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Apologies & Dialogue 3-57

Greek original · 4 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss

← ch. 3-56ch. 3-58 →
3-57:1
Καὶ Τρύφων σιγήσαντός μου εἶπεν· Ὅτι μὲν φραφὴ τοῦτο ἀναγκάζει ὁμολογεῖν ἡμᾶς, φαίνεται, ὅτι δὲ ἀπορῆσαι ἄξιόν ἐστι περὶ τοῦ λεγομένου, ὅτι ἔφαγε τὰ ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ κατασκευασθέντα καὶ παρατεθέντα, καὶ σὺ ἂν ὁμολογήσειας
And Trypho, when I had fallen silent, said: "That the Scripture compels us to confess this is evident; but that it is worth being perplexed about regarding what is said—namely, that he ate the things prepared and set before him by Abraham—you too would admit."
我靜默之後,特來弗說:「聖經逼使我們承認這點,這是顯然的;但對於所說的話——就是說,他吃了亞伯拉罕所預備並擺在他面前的食物——值得加以困惑,這你也會承認。」
3-57:2
Κἀγὼ ἀπεκρινάμην· Ὅτι μὲν βεβρώκασι, γέγραπται· εἰ δὲ τοὺς τρεῖς ἀκούσαιμεν λελέχθαι βεβρωκέναι, καὶ μὴ τοὺς δύο μόνους, οἵτινες ἄγγελοι τῷ ὄντι ἦσαν καὶ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς, δῆλόν ἐστιν ἡμῖν, τρεφόμενοι, κἂν μὴ ὁμοίαν τροφὴν ᾗπερ οἱ ἄνθρωποι χρώμεθα τρέφονται (περὶ γὰρ τῆς τροφῆς τοῦ μάννα, ἣν ἐτράφησαν οἱ πατέρες ὑμῶν ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ, γραφὴ οὕτω λέγει, ὅτι ἄρτον ἀγγέλων ἔφαγον ), εἴποιμ ἂν ὅτι λόγος, λέγων βεβρωκέναι, οὕτως ἂν λέγοι ὡς ἂν καὶ αὐτοὶ εἴποιμεν ἐπὶ πυρὸς ὅτι πάντα κατέφαγεν, ἀλλὰ μὴ πάντως τοῦτο ἐξακούειν ὅτι ὀδοῦσι καὶ γνάθοις μασώμενοι βεβρώκασιν. Ὥστε οὐδὲ ἐνταῦθα ἀπορήσαιμεν ἂν περὶ οὐδενός, εἰ τροπολογίας ἔμπειροι κἂν μικρὸν ὑπάρχωμεν
And I answered: "That they ate is written; but if we should hear that the three are said to have eaten, and not the two only who were really angels and are in the heavens, it is clear to us that they are nourished—even if they are not nourished with food like that which we men use (for concerning the food of the manna with which your fathers were nourished in the wilderness, the Scripture says thus, that 'they ate the bread of angels'). I would say that the word which says they ate would speak in such a way as we ourselves would say of fire, that 'it consumed everything,' yet not at all understanding this to mean that they ate by chewing with teeth and jaws. So that not even here would we be perplexed about anything, if we were even a little experienced in figurative interpretation."
我回答說:「他們吃了,這是寫著的;但如果我們聽見說那三位都吃了,而不只是那兩位真正是天使、並在諸天之上的,我們就清楚:他們是受滋養的——即使他們不是用我們人所用的那種食物受滋養(因為關於你們的祖宗在曠野所吃的那嗎哪的食物,聖經這樣說,他們『吃了天使的糧』)。我會說,那說他們吃了的話,會像我們自己論到火時所說的『它把一切都吃盡了』那樣來說,卻絕不是要理解為他們是用牙齒和腮幫咀嚼著吃的。所以即使在這裡我們也不會對任何事感到困惑,只要我們對寓意解釋哪怕稍有一點經驗。」
3-57:3
Καὶ Τρύφων· Δυνατὸν καὶ ταῦτα οὕτω θεραπευθῆναι περὶ τρόπου βρώσεως, παρ ὃν ἀναλώσαντας τὰ παρασκευασθέντα ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ βεβρωκέναι γεγραμμένον ἐστίν. Ὥστε ἔρχου ἤδη ἀποδώσων ἡμῖν τὸν λόγον, πῶς οὗτος τῷ Ἀβραὰμ ὀφθεὶς θεὸς, καὶ ὑπηρέτης ὢν τοῦ ποιητοῦ τῶν ὅλων θεοῦ, διὰ τῆς παρθένου γεννηθείς, ἄνθρωπος ὁμοιοπαθὴς πᾶσιν, ὡς προέφης, γέγονεν
And Trypho said: "It is possible for these things too to be thus dealt with concerning the manner of eating, by which it is written that they ate, having consumed the things prepared by Abraham. So come now and render us the account: how this God who appeared to Abraham, and who is a minister of the God who made all things, having been born through the virgin, became a man subject to like passions as all men, as you said before."
特來弗說:「關於那記載他們吃了、消耗了亞伯拉罕所預備之物的進食方式,這些事也可以這樣解決。那麼,現在來向我們交代:這位向亞伯拉罕顯現、並且是那位創造萬有之神的僕役的神,怎麼藉著童女降生,成了一個像所有人一樣有同樣情感的人,正如你先前所說的。」
3-57:4
Κἀγώ· Συγχώρει, Τρύφων, πρότερον, εἶπον, καὶ ἄλλας τινὰς ἀποδείξεις τῷ κεφαλαίῳ τούτῳ συναγαγεῖν διὰ πολλῶν, ἵνα καὶ ὑμεῖς πεπεισμένοι καὶ περὶ τούτου ἦτε, καὶ μετὰ τοῦτο ὃν ἀπαιτεῖς λόγον ἀποδώσω. Κἀκεῖνος· Ὡς σοὶ δοκεῖ, ἔφη, πρᾶττε· καὶ ἐμοὶ γὰρ πάνυ ποθητὸν πρᾶγμα πράξεις
And I said: "Allow me first, O Trypho, to gather together some other proofs as well, through many passages, for this main point, so that you too may be convinced concerning this also; and after that I will render the account which you demand." And he said: "Do as it seems good to you; for you will be doing a thing very desirable to me also."
我說:「特來弗啊,請容我先就這個要點,藉著許多經文也收集一些其他的證據,好讓你們對這點也能信服;之後我再交代你所要求的說明。」他說:「照你看為好的去做吧;因為你所做的,對我也是一件十分渴望的事。」
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