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Gregorius a Joanni epicopo Constantinop . Quamvis causae consideratie me movet , ad teribeudum tamen et charitas impellit , quia et semel et bis sanctissimo fratri meo domno Joanni scripsi , sed non ejus epistolas recepi . Alter enim milii saecularis quidam sub ejus nomine loquebatur ; quae si epistolae ejus fuerunt , ego vigilans non fui , qui longe de eo aliter credidi quam inveni . De causa enim reverendissimi viri Joann's presbyteri scripseram , atque de quæstionibus monachoruln Isauriae , quorum unus et in sacerdotio positus , in ecclesia vestra fustibus cæsus est ; et rescripsit mibi , sicut ex nomine epistolae agnosco , sanrtissima fraternitas tua , quia nescierit de qua causa scriberem .
Gregory to John, bishop of Constantinople. Although consideration of the cause moves me to write, yet charity also impels me, because both once and twice I wrote to my most holy brother, the lord John, but I did not receive his letters. For another, some worldly man, was speaking to me under his name; and if those letters were his, I was not vigilant, who believed far otherwise of him than I found. For I had written concerning the cause of the most reverend man John the presbyter, and concerning the questions of the monks of Isauria, one of whom, even set in the priesthood, was beaten with cudgels in your church; and Your most holy Fraternity wrote back to me—as I recognize from the name of the letter—that he did not know concerning what cause I was writing.
額我略致君士坦丁堡主教若望。雖然對此事由的考量促使我寫信,然而愛德也催逼我,因為我曾一次又兩次寫信給我至聖的兄弟若望主人,卻沒有收到他的回信。因為有另一個俗世之人以他的名義對我說話;倘若那些信真是他的,那麼是我沒有警醒,因我對他的看法與我所發現的截然不同。因為我曾寫信論及那至可敬之人若望司鐸的案件,以及伊掃利亞眾隱修士的問題,其中一人甚至身居司鐸之職,卻在你的教會裡被棍棒毆打;而你至聖的弟兄之情回信給我——正如我從信上的署名所認出的——說他不知道我為什麼事由而寫信。
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Ad quod rescriptum vehementer obstupui , mecum tacitus volvens , si verum dicit , quid esse deterius potest , quam ut agantur talia contra servos Dei , et ipse nesciat qui praesto est ? 663 Quae enim potest esse pastoris excusatio , si lupus oves comedit , et pastor nescit ? Si autem scivit sanctitas vestra , et de qua causa scripserim , rt quid vel contra Joannem presbyterum , vel contra Athanasium Isaurioe monachum atque presbyterum gestum sit , b et mihi scripsit , nescio ; contra hoc ego quid respondeam , quando per Scripturam suam Verims dicit : Os quod mentitur , occidit animam (Sap . 1, 11).
At which reply I was vehemently astounded, revolving silently within myself: if he speaks truth, what can be worse than that such things should be done against the servants of God, and he himself who is at hand should not know it? For what excuse can there be for a shepherd, if the wolf devours the sheep, and the shepherd knows it not? But if Your Holiness did know, both concerning what cause I wrote, and what was done either against John the presbyter or against Athanasius, monk and presbyter of Isauria, and wrote to me—I know not; against this, what am I to answer, when through His Scripture the Truth says: The mouth that lies slays the soul (Wisdom 1:11)?
對這回覆,我大為震驚,默默地在心中反覆思量:倘若他所言屬實,那麼還有什麼比這更糟的呢——竟有這樣的事被施行來對付天主的僕人,而近在咫尺的他本人卻不知道?因為,倘若豺狼吞吃了羊群,而牧人卻不知道,那麼牧人還能有什麼藉口呢?但倘若你的聖德確實知道我為何事由而寫,以及對若望司鐸或對伊掃利亞的隱修士兼司鐸阿塔納修所行之事,卻回信給我——我實在不知該如何回應此事,因為真理藉著祂的聖經說:『說謊的口殺害靈魂』(智慧篇一11)。
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Requiro , frater sanctissime , illa tanta c abstinentia ad hoc pervenit , ut fratri suo ea quae novit gesta , negando velit abscondere ? nunquid non melius fucrat in illud os carnes ad vescenduln ingredi , quam de eo falsum sermonem ad illudendum proximum exire ? praecipue cum Veritas dicat : Non quod intrat in os coinquinat hominem ; aed quae exeunt de corde , illa sunt quæ coinquinant hominem (Matth . iv , 11). Sed a absit hoc , ne ege de sanctissimo corde vestro tale aliquid credam . Illae epistolæ vestro nomine prænotatæ sunt , sed vestras eas fuisse non arbitror .
I ask, most holy brother: has that so great abstinence come to this, that a man should wish, by denying, to hide from his brother the deeds which he knows to have been done? Would it not have been better for flesh to enter that mouth to be eaten, than for a false word to go forth from it to mock a neighbor? Especially since the Truth says: Not that which enters into the mouth defiles a man; but the things which come forth from the heart, those are what defile a man (Matthew 15:11). But far be it that I should believe any such thing of your most holy heart. Those letters were superscribed with your name, but I do not think they were yours.
我問你,至聖的兄弟:那如此偉大的克己,竟落到這地步,以致一個人竟願以否認來向弟兄隱藏他所知確已發生的事嗎?讓肉食進入那口中被吃掉,豈不勝過讓虛謊之言從其中發出去嘲弄鄰人嗎?尤其真理說:『不是進入口中的玷污人;而是從心裡發出來的,那些才玷污人』(瑪竇福音十五11)。但斷不可讓我對你至聖的心懷有這樣的看法。那些信雖以你的名義署名,但我不認為它們是你的。
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Ego beatissimo viro Domno Joanni scripseram , sed credo quod mihi familiaris vester ille juvenculus rescripsit qui adhuc de Deo nihil didicit , qui viscera charitatis nescit , qui e in scelestis rebus ab omnibus accusatur , qui insidiari quotidie diversorum mortibus per occulta testamenta , nec Dominum metuit , nec homines erubescit . Mihi crede , frater sanctissime , ( si zelum veritatis perfecte habes , ipsum prius corrige , ut ex his qui vobis vicini sunt etiam ii qui vicin ! non sunt exemplo melius emendentur . Illius linguam noli recipere ; ille ad consilium vestrae sanctitatis debet dirigi , non autem sanctitas vestra ad verba illius inflecti .
I had written to that most blessed man, the lord John, but I believe that it was that familiar young man of yours who wrote back to me—one who as yet has learned nothing of God, who knows not the bowels of charity, who is accused by all in wicked matters, who daily plots the deaths of divers persons through secret wills, and neither fears the Lord nor blushes before men. Believe me, most holy brother, if you have perfectly the zeal of truth, correct him first, so that from those who are near you even those who are not near may be better amended by the example. Do not receive his tongue; he ought to be directed to the counsel of your Holiness, and not Your Holiness be bent to his words.
我曾寫信給那至有福之人若望主人,但我相信是你那親近的年輕人回信給我——一個至今對天主一無所知的人,不懂愛德的肺腑,在惡事上被眾人控告,每日藉著隱秘的遺囑圖謀各人的死亡,既不敬畏主,也不在人前羞愧。至聖的兄弟,請相信我,倘若你完全懷有真理的熱忱,就先糾正他,好使從你身邊之人開始,連那些不在你身邊的人也能藉著榜樣得到更好的改正。不要領受他的舌頭;他該被引導去聽從你聖德的建議,而不是你的聖德被扭轉去屈從他的話。
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Si enim illum audIt , scio quia pacem cum suis fratribus habere non poterit . Ego enim attestante mihi conscientia , fateor quia cum nuHo homine habere scandalum volo , et quanta valeo virtute declino . Et quamvis curn omnibus hominibus pacem habere summopere cupiam , vobiscum praecipue , quos vehementer amo , si tamen ipsi quos novi vos estis . Nam s si canones non custoditis , et majorum vultis statuta convellere , non cognosco qui .estis . Age ergo , frater sanctissime atque charissime , ut nos invicem recognoscamus , ne si antiquus hostis duos per scandalum moverit , per nequissimam victoriam multos necet .
For if he listens to that man, I know that he will not be able to have peace with his brethren. For I, with my conscience bearing me witness, confess that I wish to have a quarrel with no man, and I decline it with all the strength I can. And although I most earnestly desire to have peace with all men, yet with you especially, whom I vehemently love, if however you are the very ones I have known. For if you do not keep the canons, and wish to overthrow the statutes of the elders, I do not recognize who you are. Come then, most holy and most dear brother, that we may recognize one another anew, lest, if the ancient enemy should move two by scandal, he slay many through his most wicked victory.
因為,倘若他聽從那人,我知道他必不能與弟兄們和睦相處。因為我憑良心作證,承認我願與任何人都不起爭端,並竭盡全力避免爭端。雖然我極其渴望與眾人和睦,尤其與你們——我所深愛的人——和睦,倘若你們確是我所認識的那些人的話。因為,倘若你們不守教規,且想推翻先賢的規章,我便不認得你們是誰了。至聖至親愛的兄弟,那麼來罷,讓我們彼此重新相認,免得那古蛇仇敵藉著醜聞挑動了兩個人,就藉其極其邪惡的勝利殺害許多人。
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Ego enim ut aperte indicem , 664 quia h per elationem nil quæro , si ille juvenculus de quo praelocutus sum apud fraternitatem tuam culmen pravæ actionis minime teneret , ipsa etiam quae mihi de canonibus suppetunt interim tacere potuissem , et ab ipso initio venientes ad me personas ad eam fiducialiter retransmisissem , scens quod eas sanctitas tua cum charitate susciperet . Sed eliam Dune dico , aut easdem personas in suis ordinibus suscipe , eisque quietem præbe ; aut si huc fortasse nolueris , omni mihi altercatione postposita , de eorum causa statuta majorumet canonum terminos custodi . Si vero neutrum feceris , nos quidem rixam inferre nolumus , sed tamen venientem a vobis non devitamus .
For, to indicate openly that through pride I seek nothing: if that young man of whom I have spoken before held no summit of depraved action in the eyes of Your Fraternity, I could for the time have kept silent even about those very things concerning the canons which are at my disposal, and from the very beginning I would have sent back to you, in confidence, the persons who came to me, knowing that Your Holiness would receive them with charity. But even now I say: either receive those same persons in their orders, and grant them repose; or if perchance you are unwilling to do this, then, laying aside all altercation with me, keep in their cause the statutes and the bounds of the canons of the elders. But if you do neither, we indeed do not wish to bring on strife, yet we do not shun one who comes from you.
因為,為要公開表明我並非出於自負而有所求:倘若我先前所說的那年輕人在你的弟兄之情眼中毫無邪惡行徑的頂峰,我原本可以暫且連我手頭那些關於教規的憑據也一併緘默不言,並從一開始就滿懷信心地把來到我這裡的人送回你那裡,知道你的聖德必以愛德接待他們。但即使現在我仍要說:你或者接納那些人於其原有的聖秩之中,賜他們安寧;或者,倘若你或許不願如此,那麼就當拋開與我的一切爭執,在他們的案件上遵守先賢教規的規章與界限。但倘若這兩樣你都不做,我們固然不願挑起爭端,然而對於從你那裡來的人,我們並不迴避。
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Quid autem I de cpiscopis qui verberibus timeri volunt , canones di ant , bene vestra fraternitas novit (Grat . dist . 45, c . 1). Pastores etenim facti sumus , w non persecutores . Et egregius prædicator dicit : Argue , obsecra , increpa , in omni pal'entia et doctrina (11 Tim . IV , 2). Nova vero atque inaudita est ista prædicatio , quæ verberibus exigit fidem . Sed de his multa in epistolis loqui uon debeo , quia dilectissimum filium meum Sabinianum diaconum pro responsis ecclesiasticis faciendis ad Dominorum vestigia transmisi ,qui vobiscum cuncta subtilius loquemur . Si nobiscum litigare non vultis , paratum eum ad omnia quæ justa sunt invenictis . Quem vestræ beatitudini com .
But what the canons say concerning bishops who wish to be feared by blows, Your Fraternity well knows. For we have been made shepherds, not persecutors. And the excellent preacher says: Reprove, entreat, rebuke, in all patience and doctrine (2 Timothy 4:2). But this preaching is new and unheard of, which exacts faith by blows. But I ought not to say many things about these matters in letters, because I have transmitted my most beloved son, the deacon Sabinianus, to the footsteps of our lords, for the making of ecclesiastical responses, who will speak all things with you more particularly. If you are unwilling to litigate with us, you will find him ready for all things that are just. Whom I commend to your Blessedness,
但關於那些想藉毆打使人畏懼的主教,教規怎麼說,你的弟兄之情深知。因為我們受立為牧人,而非迫害者。而那卓越的宣道者說:『務要責備、勸勉、斥責,以極大的忍耐與教訓』(弟茂德後書四2)。但這藉毆打強索信德的宣講,實在是新奇而聞所未聞的。但關於這些事,我不該在信中多言,因為我已把我至愛的兒子、執事撒比尼亞諾送往我們主上們的足前,去辦理教會的答覆事宜,他必與你們更詳細地商談一切。倘若你們不願與我們爭訟,你們必發現他樂於承擔一切合乎公義之事。我把他託付給你的至福——
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mendo , ut saltem ipse domnum illum Joannem invemat , quem ego III urbe regia scivi . (Cf . Joan . Diac . I . III , c . 4b ; I . III , c . 9.)
—so that at least he himself may find that lord John, whom I knew in the royal city.
——好使至少他本人能找到那位若望主人,就是我在那皇都所認識的。
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