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Gregory the Great

Moralia in Job 1191

Latin original · 6 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss

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1191:1
VERSe '-6. — Ubi eras quando ponebam funda meNta terræ ? Indica mihi, si habea intelligentiam. Quis posuit mensura, ejus, si nosti, bel quis tetendit super eam lineam ? Super quo bases illius solidatæ sunt ? 14. Per fundamenta Ecclesiæ intelligi debent apostoli; per fundamentum, solus Christus. — Ecce omnia quasi de mundi origine narratione historica contexuntur. Repente vero subjungitur quod non de mundi, sed de Ecelesiæ dictum conditione yideaLnr. Nam dicitur: Aut quis dimisit lapidem angularem eju, ? Per hoc enim quod non in mundi origine factuM est, et illud superius ostenditur, quia de mundi oripne dictum non est.
VERSE 4-6. — 'Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare unto me, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are its bases made fast?' 14. By the foundations of the Church the apostles are to be understood; by the one foundation, Christ alone. — Behold, all these things are woven together as if in an historical narration concerning the origin of the world. But suddenly there is subjoined something which seems to be said not of the world, but of the Church. For it is said: 'Or who hath laid its cornerstone?' For by this — that it was not done at the origin of the world — that former thing also is shown, namely that it was not said concerning the origin of the world.
第4至6節——「我立大地根基的時候,你在哪裏呢?你若有聰明,只管說吧。你若曉得就說,是誰定地的尺度?是誰把準繩拉在其上?地的根基安置在何處?」14. 藉大地的根基當理解為使徒;藉那獨一的根基,則單指基督。——看哪,這一切都彷彿以歷史敘事的方式編織起來,論及世界的起源。但忽然加上一句,似乎不是論世界,而是論教會所說的。因為說:「地的角石是誰安放的?」因為藉這句——它並非在世界起源時所成就的——那前面的話也就顯明了,即它並非論及世界的起源而說。
1191:2
idcirco namque rebus planis ac patentibus obscura quaedam ac dissona permiscentrr, ut per hoc quod ab intellectu litterae discrepat. et illud inquiratur mystice quod dictum juxta litteram sonat. Namque sicut aliis apertis rebus alia clausa cognoscimus, ita aliis clausis compellimur et illa altiori intellectu pulsare quæ aperta credebamus. Dicat ergo: Ubi eras quando ponebam fundamenta terræ. [Vel. lX.] In Scriptura sacra quid aliud fundamenta quam praedicatores accipimus ? Quos dum primos Dominus in sancta Ecclesia posuit, tota in eis sequentis fabricae structura surrexit. Unde et sa. cerdos cum tabernaculum ingreditur (Exod.
For this reason indeed certain obscure and discordant things are mingled with plain and evident matters, so that by that which is at variance with the understanding of the letter, that also may be sought mystically which sounds when spoken according to the letter. For just as by other things that are open we come to know other things that are closed, so by other things closed we are compelled to knock also at those things by a higher understanding which we had believed to be open. Let it say therefore: 'Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?' In Holy Scripture what else do we take the foundations to be but the preachers? Whom, when the Lord placed first in the holy Church, the whole structure of the following fabric rose up upon them. Whence also the priest, when he enters the tabernacle (Exod.
實在是因這緣故,某些晦澀不諧的事物被摻雜在明白顯著的事物之中,好使藉那與字面理解相悖之處,也可奧祕地尋求那按字面所發出之聲。因為正如我們藉其他開啟之事來認識其他閉合之事,照樣,我們也被迫藉更高的悟性去叩那些我們曾以為開啟的事。所以讓它說:「我立大地根基的時候,你在哪裏呢?」在聖經中,我們把根基理解為甚麼,豈非傳道者?當主把他們安置為聖教會中的首位時,後續建築的全部結構便在他們之上興起。故此祭司進入會幕時(出埃及記)
1191:3
XXVIII, ł 7) duodecim lapides portare in pectore jubetur, quia videlicet semetipsum pro nobis sacrificium orferens pontifex noster, dum fortes in ipso exordio praedicatores exhibuit, duodecim lapides sub capite in prima sui corporis parte portavit. Sancti itaque apostoli et pro prima ostensione ornamenti lapides BUnt in pectore, et pro prima soliditate ædificii in solo fundamenta. Unde David propheta cum sanctam Ecclesiam in sublimibus apostolorum mentibus poni ædificarique couspiceret: Fundamenta ejuB, inquit, in montibus sanctis (Psal. LXXXVI, 1).
XXVIII, 17) is commanded to bear twelve stones on his breast, because indeed our High Priest, offering Himself a sacrifice for us, while He set forth strong preachers at the very beginning, bore twelve stones beneath His head in the first part of His body. The holy apostles therefore are both stones on the breast for the first display of ornament, and foundations on the ground for the first solidity of the building. Whence David the prophet, when he beheld the holy Church placed and built up in the sublime minds of the apostles, says: 'Its foundations are in the holy mountains' (Ps. LXXXVI, 1).
(出二十八章17節)受命在胸前佩帶十二塊寶石,因為我們的大祭司實在將自己獻上為我們作祭物,當祂在起初就設立剛強的傳道者時,便在祂身體的首要部分、在祂的頭之下佩帶了十二塊寶石。所以聖使徒既是胸前的寶石,為著裝飾的最初顯露,又是地上的根基,為著建築的最初穩固。故此大衛先知看見聖教會安置並建造在使徒崇高的心靈中時,說:「祂的根基立在聖山上」(詩八十六篇1節)。
1191:4
Cum vero in sacro eloquio non fundamenta, sed singulari numero fundamentum dicitur, nullus alius nisi ipse Dominus designatur, per cujus divinitatis potentiam, nutantia infirmitatis nostrae corda solidantur. De quo et Pau. lus ait: Fundamentum aliud nemo potest ponere, præter id quod positum est, quod tat Christus Jesus ( 1 Cor. III, i i ). Ipse quippe fundamentum fundamentorum est, quia et origo est inchoantium, et constantia 900 robustorum.
But when in the sacred discourse not 'foundations,' but in the singular number a 'foundation' is spoken of, none other is designated but the Lord Himself, through the power of whose divinity the wavering hearts of our infirmity are made solid. Of whom also Paul says: 'Other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, which is Christ Jesus' (1 Cor. III, 11). For He is the foundation of foundations, because He is both the origin of those beginning, and the constancy of the robust.
但當在神聖的言語中,不是說「眾根基」,而是以單數說「根基」時,所指的別無他人,惟有主自己;藉著祂神性的權能,我們軟弱中搖動的心得以堅固。論到祂,保羅也說:「那已經立好的根基就是耶穌基督,此外沒有人能立別的根基」(林前三章11節)。因為祂是眾根基的根基,因祂既是初信者的本源,又是剛強者的恆穩。
1191:5
Qnia igitur fundamenta nostra sunt hi qui iniquitatum nostrarum pondera portaverunt, ne beatus Job in superbiam de virtutum suarum potentia sublevetur, in ipsa dominici prima parte sermonis de sanctorum prædicatorum commemoratione discutitur, ut quanto iUos admirabiles venire conspiceret, tanto in eorum comparatione'de se vilius aestimaret. Quod idcirco a Domino jam quasi praeteritum describitur, quia quidquid roris foturum est in opere, intus jam factum est in prædestinatione. Dicitur itaque ei: Ubi eras quando ponebam fundamenta terræ ? Ac si aperte diceretur: Virtutem fortium considera, meque eorum ante sæcula auctorem pensa;
Since therefore our foundations are these who bore the weights of our iniquities, lest blessed Job be lifted up into pride over the power of his virtues, in the very first part of the Lord's discourse he is examined by a commemoration of the holy preachers, so that by however much he beheld them coming forth admirable, by so much in comparison with them he might esteem more meanly of himself. And this is therefore described by the Lord as it were already past, because whatever is to be future in the work has already been done within in predestination. It is said to him therefore: 'Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?' As if it were plainly said: Consider the virtue of the strong, and weigh Me as their Author before the ages;
所以既然我們的根基乃是那些擔負我們罪孽重擔的人,為免蒙福的約伯因自己美德的能力而被高抬入驕傲,在主言語的最初部分,他便藉對聖潔傳道者的追念而受察驗,好使他愈看見他們顯得可欽佩,就愈在與他們相比中看自己為卑賤。而這事之所以被主描述為彷彿已成過去,乃因凡在工作中將要成就的,在預定中都已在裏面成就了。所以對他說:「我立大地根基的時候,你在哪裏呢?」彷彿明明地說:思想剛強者的美德,並衡量我在萬世以先是他們的創造者;
1191:6
et cum eos quos in tempore condidi mirabiles suspicis, perpende quantum inibi subdi debeas, quem auctorem mirabilium sine tempore esse cognoscis. Sequitur:
and when thou lookest up to those admirable ones whom I created in time, ponder how greatly thou oughtest therein to be subject to Him whom thou knowest to be the Author of the admirable without time. There follows:
當你仰望那些我在時間中所造、令人欽佩的人時,思量你在其中當何等地服從那位——你所認識、在時間之外作那些奇妙者的創造者。接著說:
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