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Moralia in Job 1399 Latin original · 10 verses · some words can be tapped for a gloss
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34. Pænarum æternitatem non credunt reprobi , a diabolo in errorem inducti . Eorum falsis ralionibu . respondetur . — Quod aeterna incomprehensibiliaque judicia , abyssi soleant nomine designari , Psalmista testatur dicens : Judicia tua abyssus multa (Psal . XXV , 7). Senectus vero aliquando pro finis propinquime ponitur , Unde A posto !us ait : Quod antiquatur et senscit , prope interitum eat (Hebr . VIII , 13). Leviathan itaque iste aestimabit abyssum quasi senescentem , quia reproborum corda sic infatuat , ut suspicionem eis de venturo judicio quod quasi finiatur infundat . Abyssum namque senescere æstimat , qui terminari quandoque in suppliciis supernam animadversionem putat .
The reprobate do not believe in the eternity of punishments, being led into error by the devil. Their false reasonings are answered. That the eternal and incomprehensible judgments are wont to be designated by the name of the deep, the Psalmist testifies, saying: 'Your judgments are a great deep' (Ps. 36:6). But old age is sometimes put for the nearness of an end. Hence the Apostle says: 'That which grows old and ages is near to destruction' (Heb. 8:13). This Leviathan, therefore, will reckon the deep as though it were growing old, because he so befools the hearts of the reprobate that he pours into them a suspicion concerning the coming judgment, as though it would be brought to an end. For he reckons the deep to grow old who supposes that the supernal chastisement will at some time be terminated in its punishments.
被棄絕者被魔鬼引入謬誤,不信刑罰是永遠的。以下答覆他們虛假的理由。那永遠而不可測度的審判,常以深淵之名來稱呼,詩人為此作證說:「你的判斷如同深淵」(詩三十六6)。但老邁有時被用來指終局的臨近。因此使徒說:「那漸舊漸衰的,就必快歸無有了」(來八13)。所以這利維坦要把深淵看作好像漸漸老邁的,因為他如此愚弄被棄絕者的心,將一種臆測灌注給他們,以為將來的審判好像會有終結。因為凡以為那從上而來的懲罰在其刑罰上有朝一日必要終止的人,就是把深淵看作漸漸老邁的。
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Igitur antiquus iste persuasor in membris suis , id est in mentibus iniquorum , futuras poenas levigat , quas quasi certo fine determinat , ut eorum culpas sine termino correptionis extendat ; et eo magis hic peccata non finiant , quo istic aestimant peccatorutn supplicia finienda . 35. Sunt enim nUDe etiam qui idcirco peccatis suis ponere finem negligunt , quia habere quandoqUe finem futura super se judicia suspicantur . c Quibus breviter respondemus : Si quandoque finienda sunt supplicia reproborum , quandoque finienda sunt ergo et gaudia beatomm . Per semetipsam namque Veritas dicit : Ibunt hi in supplicium æternum , justi autem in vitam æternam (Matth . xxv , 46).
Therefore this ancient persuader, in his members, that is, in the minds of the wicked, makes light of the punishments to come, which he marks off as with a fixed end, in order that he may extend their faults without any term of correction; and they the more refuse here to make an end of their sins, the more they reckon that the punishments of sinners must there be brought to an end. For there are even now some who therefore neglect to set an end to their sins, because they suspect that the judgments to come upon them will at some time have an end. To whom we briefly reply: If the punishments of the reprobate are at some time to be ended, then the joys of the blessed are at some time to be ended also. For the Truth Himself says: 'These shall go into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life' (Matt. 25:46).
所以這古老的誘惑者,在他的肢體中,就是在惡人的心思中,把將來的刑罰輕描淡寫,好像用一個固定的終點把它劃定,為要毫無更正之限地擴張他們的過犯;他們越是以為罪人的刑罰在那裡必要終結,就越發在此地拒絕給自己的罪劃上句點。因為就是如今也有些人所以疏忽給自己的罪定個終結,正因為他們懷疑那要臨到他們的審判有朝一日必有終結。對這些人我們簡短地回答:若被棄絕者的刑罰有朝一日要終結,那麼蒙福者的喜樂也有朝一日要終結。因為真理親自說:「這些人要往永刑裡去,那些義人要往永生裡去」(太二十五46)。
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Si igitur hoc verum non est quod minatus est , neque illud verum est quod promisit . At inquiunt :Ideo æternam paenam peccantibus minatus est , ut eos a peccatorum perpetratione compesceret , quia creaturae suae aeterna supplicia minari debuit , non inferre . Quibus citius respondemus : Si falsa minatus est ut ab injustitia corrigeret , etiam falsa pollicitus est ut ad justitiam provocaret .
If, therefore, that which He threatened is not true, neither is that true which He promised. But they say: He threatened eternal punishment upon sinners for this reason, that He might restrain them from the perpetration of sins, because He ought to threaten His creature with eternal punishments, not to inflict them. To whom we reply the more speedily: If He threatened false things that He might correct men from injustice, He also promised false things that He might spur them on to justice.
所以,若祂所警告的不是真的,那麼祂所應許的也不是真的。但他們說:祂所以向罪人警告永刑,乃是為要約束他們不去犯罪,因為祂只當向祂的受造物警告永刑,卻不當真施行。對這些人我們更迅速地回答:祂若警告了虛假的事,為要更正人脫離不義,那麼祂也就應許了虛假的事,為要激勵人歸向公義。
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Et quis hanc eorum vesaniam toleret , qui dum promissionibus suis reproborum supplicia finiri asserunt , assertione sua etiam electorum praemia remunerationesque confundunt ?Quia hanc eorum vesaniam toleret , qui conantur astruere verum non esse , quod Veritas de aeterno igne minata est , et dum satagunt Deum perhibere misericordem , non verentur praedicare fallacem ? 56. Æternis pænis addici peccatores quam æquum ait . — At inquiunt : Sine line puniri non debet culpa cum fine . Justus nimirum est omnipotens Deus , et quod non aeterno peccato commissum est , aeterno non debet puniri tormento .
And who could endure this madness of theirs, who, while by their assertions they maintain that the punishments of the reprobate are to be ended, by that same assertion also confound the rewards and recompenses of the elect? Who could endure this madness of theirs, who try to establish that it is not true which the Truth threatened concerning eternal fire, and, while they are busy portraying God as merciful, do not shrink from proclaiming Him deceitful? How just it is that sinners be consigned to eternal punishments. But they say: A fault that has an end ought not to be punished without end. Almighty God is indeed just, and that which was not committed by an eternal sin ought not to be punished with an eternal torment.
誰能容忍他們這樣的狂妄呢?他們一面斷言被棄絕者的刑罰必要終結,一面就用這同一個斷言攪亂了選民的賞賜與報償。誰能容忍他們這樣的狂妄呢?他們竭力主張,真理所警告關乎永火的話不是真的,一面忙著把神描繪為仁慈的,一面卻不怕宣稱祂是虛謊的。罪人被判定受永刑是何等公道。但他們說:有終結的過犯不當受無終結的刑罰。全能的神固然是公義的,凡不是以永遠之罪所犯的,就不當受永遠之刑罰。
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Quibus citius re "pondemus quod recte dicerent , si judex justus districtusque veniens , non corda hominum , sed facta pensaret . Iniqui enim ideo carn line deliquerunt , quia cunt fine vixerunt . Voluissent quippe sine fine vivere , ut sine fine potuissent in iniquitatibus permanere . Nam ma . gis appetunt peccare 1133 quam vivere ; et ideo hic semper vivere cupiunt , ut nunquam desinant peccare , cum vivunt . Ad districti ergo judicis justitiam pertinet , ut nunquam careant supplicio , quorum mens in hac vita nunquam voluit carere peccato ; et nullus detur iniquo terminus uhionis , quia quandiu valuit , habere noluit terminum criminis . i Vet . XIII .[ 37.
To whom we reply the more speedily that they would say rightly, if the judge, coming as just and strict, were to weigh not the hearts of men but their deeds. For the wicked have therefore sinned with an end, because they lived with an end. Indeed they would have wished to live without end, that without end they might have been able to remain in their iniquities. For they desire to sin more than to live; and therefore they desire always to live here, that they may never cease from sinning while they live. It pertains, therefore, to the justice of the strict judge that those should never be without punishment whose mind in this life never wished to be without sin; and that no term of vengeance be granted to the wicked man, because, as long as he had power, he refused to have a term to his crime.
對這些人我們更迅速地回答:他們的話本可算是對的,若那審判者以公義、嚴厲而來,衡量的不是人的心,乃是人的行為。因為惡人所以犯罪有終結,正因為他們活著有終結。他們實在寧願無終結地活著,好叫他們能無終結地存留在自己的罪孽中。因為他們渴望犯罪過於渴望活著;所以他們所以渴望在此地永遠活著,正是要在活著時永不止息犯罪。所以,那些人在此生的心思既永不願脫離罪,那使他們永不脫離刑罰,這就合乎嚴厲審判者的公義;並且不給惡人的報應定個終點,因為只要他有能力,他就不肯給自己的罪定個終點。
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Justi videntes ill malorum cruciatibus quæ suppliccia evaserint , ad Dei laudes excitan tur . — At inquiunt : Nullus justus crudelitatibus pascitur , et delinquens servus a justo domino idcirco cadi praecipitur , ut a nequitia corrigatur . Ad aliquid ergo cæditur cum non ejus dominus cruciatibus de-leclatur . iniqui autem gehennae ignibus traditi quo fine semper ardehunt ? Et quia certum est quod pius atque omnipotens Deus non pascitur cruciatibus ini . quorum , cur cruciantur miseri , si non expiantur ? Quibus citius respondemus quod omnipotens Deus , quia pius est , miserorum cruciatu non pascitur ; quia autem justus est , ab iniquorum ultione in perpetuum non sedatur .
The righteous, beholding from what punishments they have escaped in the torments of the wicked, are stirred up to the praises of God. But they say: No righteous man is fed by cruelties, and a delinquent servant is commanded by a just master to be beaten for this reason, that he may be corrected from his wickedness. Therefore he is beaten for some end, since his master does not delight in torments. But the wicked, delivered to the fires of hell, with what end will they always burn? And since it is certain that the merciful and almighty God is not fed by the torments of the wicked, why are the wretched tormented, if they are not purified? To whom we reply the more speedily that almighty God, because He is merciful, is not fed by the torment of the wretched; but because He is just, He is not appeased forever from the vengeance of the wicked.
義人在惡人的酷刑中看見自己脫離了何等的刑罰,就被激動去讚美神。但他們說:沒有義人以殘忍為食,一個犯錯的僕人被公義的主人吩咐鞭打,乃是為叫他從邪惡中得更正。所以他被鞭打是為某個目的,既然他的主人並不以酷刑為樂。但那些被交在地獄之火中的惡人,究竟為著甚麼終局要永遠焚燒呢?既然確知那仁慈全能的神並不以惡人的酷刑為食,那麼可憐的人若不得潔淨,為何受苦呢?對這些人我們更迅速地回答:全能的神因是仁慈的,就不以可憐者的酷刑為食;但因祂是公義的,就永不止息向惡人施行報應。
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Sed iniqui d omnes aeterno supplicia , e quidem sua iniquitate , puniuntur ; et tamen ad ali quid concremantur , scilicet ut justi omnes et in Do .rideant gaudia quæ percipiuRl , et in istis respiciant , supplicia quæ evaserunt , ut tanto in æternum magis divinæ gratiæ debitores se esse cognoscant , quanto in æternum male puniri conspiciunt quæ ejus adjutorio vitare potuerunt . 38. Cur sancti pro suis inimicis gehennæ addictis amplius non orant . — At inquiunt : Et uhi est quod 8ancti sunt , si pro inimicis suis , quos tunc ardere viderint , non orabunt , quibus utique dictum est : Pro inimicis vestris orate (Matth . v , 44)? Sed citius respondemus :
But all the wicked are punished with eternal punishments, indeed by their own iniquity; and yet they are burned for some end, namely that all the righteous both in God may rejoice in the joys which they receive, and in these may look upon the punishments which they have escaped, so that they may know themselves to be forever the more debtors to divine grace, the more they behold, being punished forever, the evils which by His help they were able to avoid. Why the saints do not pray any longer for their enemies consigned to hell. But they say: And where is it that they are saints, if they will not pray for their enemies, whom they shall then see burning, to whom indeed it was said: 'Pray for your enemies' (Matt. 5:44)? But we reply the more speedily:
然而一切惡人都受永刑,固然是因他們自己的不義;但他們被焚燒也是為某個目的,就是叫一切義人在神裡面既為所領受的喜樂歡欣,又在這些惡人身上回顧自己所逃脫的刑罰,好叫他們越是看見那些藉神幫助本可避免的惡受永遠的刑罰,就越發認識自己永遠更是神恩典的欠債者。聖徒為何不再為那些被判入地獄的仇敵禱告。但他們說:他們既在那時看見自己的仇敵焚燒,卻不為他們禱告,那麼他們算甚麼聖徒呢?因為主曾對他們說:「要為你們的仇敵禱告」(太五44)。但我們更迅速地回答:
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Orant pro inimicis suis eo tempure , quo possunt ad fructuosam pœnitentiam eorum corda convertere , atque ipsa conversione salvare . Quid enim aliud pro inimicis orandum est , nisi hoc quod Apostolus ait : Ut det illis heus pœnitentiam , et resipiscant a diaboli laqueis , 0 quo capti tenentur , ad ipsius voluntatem (II Tim . II , 35, 26? Et quomodo pro illis iuM orabitur , quando jam nullatenus possunt ad justitiæ opera ab iniquitate commutari . Eadem haque causa est eur non oretur tunc pro bominibus eterno igne damnaLis , quæ nunc etiam causa eat ut non oretur pro diabolo angelisque ejus æLerno supplicio deputatis .
They pray for their enemies at that time when they can turn their enemies' hearts to fruitful repentance, and by that very conversion save them. For what else is to be prayed for concerning enemies but that which the Apostle says: 'That God may give them repentance, and they may recover themselves from the snares of the devil, by whom they are held captive at his will' (2 Tim. 2:25-26)? And how shall prayer be made for them then, when they can in no way be changed from iniquity to the works of justice? Therefore the same is the reason why prayer is not then made for men condemned to eternal fire, which is even now the reason why prayer is not made for the devil and his angels appointed to eternal punishment.
他們為仇敵禱告,乃是在那能使仇敵的心轉向有果效的悔改、並藉那轉變得救的時候。因為為仇敵所當祈求的,除了使徒所說的,還能是甚麼呢?就是:「叫神賜他們悔改的心,可以醒悟,脫離魔鬼的網羅——他們既被魔鬼任意擄去」(提後二25–26)。既然他們斷不能從不義轉向公義的作為,那時又怎能為他們禱告呢?所以,那時不為被定入永火之人禱告的緣由,就與如今不為那被判定受永刑的魔鬼和牠的使者禱告的緣由,是同一個緣由。
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Quae nunc etiam causa est , ut noM orent sancti homines pro hominibus infidelibus impiisque defunctis , qui de eis utique quos alterno depulatol supplicio jam noverunt ante ilium judicis justi conspecLum oraLionis suae meritum cassari refugiant . Quod si nunc quoque viventes justi mortuis et damnatis injustis minime compatiuntur , quando adhuc aliquid judicabile de sua carne se perpeti etiam ipsi noverunt , quanto districtius tunc iniquorum tormenta respiciunt , quando , ab omni vitio corruptionis exuti , ipsi jam justitiæ vicinius atque arctius inhærebunt ?
This is even now the reason why holy men do not pray for unbelieving and impious men who have died, since concerning those whom they already know to have been consigned to eternal punishment they shrink from having the merit of their prayer made void before the sight of that just Judge. But if even now the righteous, while living, have no compassion for the dead and condemned unjust, at a time when they still know that they themselves suffer something judgeable from their own flesh, how much more strictly will they then look upon the torments of the wicked, when, stripped of every stain of corruption, they will themselves already cleave more nearly and more closely to justice?
這也是如今聖潔之人不為那已死的不信、不虔之人禱告的緣由,因為對於那些他們已知被判定受永刑的人,他們不願在那公義審判者的面前,使自己禱告的功效歸於無有。但若如今義人尚在世活著,還知道自己在肉身上仍要遭受某些可受審判之事的時候,尚且對那已死、被定罪的不義之人不存憐憫,那麼到那時,當他們脫盡一切敗壞的污穢,自己已更近、更緊密地聯於公義時,他們豈不更嚴厲地看待惡人的酷刑麼?
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Sic quippe eorum mentes per hoc quod justissimo judici inhærent , vis districtionis absorbet , ut omnino eis non libeat quidquid ab illius internae regulæ subtilitate discordat . Sed quia , suborto occasionis articulo , haec eo .. ira a Origenistas breviter diximus , ad eum quem prætermisimus exponendi ordinem recurramus . 1134 b Postaquam misericors Dominus callida machinamenta Leviathan istius indicavit , aperte prædiceM omne quod electos exterius vehementer opprimit , omne quotA interius suggestione sua reprobis blandienter infundil , uros immanitatem virtutis illius breviter insinuans subdit :
For indeed their minds are so absorbed by the force of strict judgment, through this that they cleave to the most just Judge, that nothing at all pleases them which is discordant from the subtlety of that inner rule. But since, an occasion having arisen, we have spoken briefly against the Origenists in these matters, let us return to that order of exposition which we had set aside. After the merciful Lord had disclosed the crafty devices of this Leviathan, openly foretelling all that outwardly and vehemently oppresses the elect, all that by his suggestion he inwardly and flatteringly pours into the reprobate, briefly indicating the monstrousness of that one's power, He adds:
因為他們的心思實在被嚴厲審判的力量所吞沒,藉著他們聯於那至公義的審判者,以致凡與那內在準則的精微相違背的,都全然不能使他們喜悅。但既然趁著出現的機會,我們已在這些事上簡短地駁斥了俄利根派,如今讓我們回到我們先前擱下的解經次序。慈悲的主既已揭露這利維坦狡猾的詭計,明明地預言了一切從外面猛烈壓迫選民的事,一切他藉暗示從裡面諂媚地灌注給被棄絕者的事,就簡短地指出那者權能的兇殘,接著說:
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